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[問題]顯示卡不穩定造成XP當機?
本來以為Windows XP不太會有當機的情形,結果...
我的配備:
P4 1.6G(未超頻)
512 MB DDR 333 RAM
MB: MSI 645 Ultra, Bios 1.4
Gainward Geforce 3 Ti 200 64MB(未超頻)
Maxtor HD 60G, 80G
Pioneer DVD-116
作業系統 WIndows XP Professional 中文正式版
1.必當情形:用power DVD XP 放Mpeg 4影片,放一段之後,會突然停住,然後重開機,開機之後,告訴你是顯示卡不穩定.不管顯示卡驅動程式版本.(Try 過21.81, 21.83, 23.11, 23.12)
2.Windows update中,居然有nVidia 23.12的驅動程式,連nVidia網站都只有23.11版,微軟不知那弄來的,第一次傻傻的update,下場是多開幾個網頁,停住,重開機.(看到別人抱怨都只是停頓而已,我卻是重開機,唉!)趕快換回21.83.看網頁就沒有這種情形.
3.用Adobe premiere編輯影片,編到一段時間後,會突然停掉,不一定是何時,然後重開機,常常未存檔就掛了...
每次回報問題,都是顯示卡不穩定,天啊!比我的98 SE還不穩,為了編輯影片及用ntfs,才用Win XP,怎麼會這樣呢?
是否有用Geforce的人,有同樣的情形?
順便一問,有人有用 NTFS for Win98 來讀 Win XP的NTFS format的硬碟嗎?我照說明copy Win XP一些NTFS的檔案,結果有問題,只好用網路上抓的檔,讀沒問題了,但無法寫, Autoexec.bat 內的參數都設好了,卻還是不能寫,為什麼.......
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....我是沒有用到"正版"啦...以前灌英文加中文語言包時,也和你一樣(我是用Geforce2MX)...我也是氣憤到把XP給洗了...後來我COPY到中文版再灌時,已經沒有問題了...你先看看顯示卡有沒有插緊...再看看記憶體有沒有問題....若再不行...把驅動程式殺了(用新增移除程式)...裝裝看更舊或更新的驅動....更舊的XP能用的是16.xx版...更新的經過微軟認證的是23.12版...沒經過認證的有26.25...26.53...27.00...27.10...27.20...我推薦27.20...效能比較好...參考參考...
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我本人就因這個原因重灌了N次!!解決方法如下:
我的電腦>>內容>>硬體>>裝置管理員>>顯示卡>>點選二下>>NVIDIA GeForce>>更新驅動程式>>接下來找到要更新的新版的位置(PS 不要理會認證簽章)
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[QUOTE][i]最初由 OSCAR767676 發表[/i]
[B]....我是沒有用到"正版"啦...以前灌英文加中文語言包時,也和你一樣(我是用Geforce2MX)...我也是氣憤到把XP給洗了...後來我COPY到中文版再灌時,已經沒有問題了...你先看看顯示卡有沒有插緊...再看看記憶體有沒有問題....若再不行...把驅動程式殺了(用新增移除程式)...裝裝看更舊或更新的驅動....更舊的XP能用的是16.xx版...更新的經過微軟認證的是23.12版...沒經過認證的有26.25...26.53...27.00...27.10...27.20...我推薦27.20...效能比較好...參考參考... [/B][/QUOTE]
沒錯,我也推薦27.20版.
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有沒有安裝intel inf跟intel Application accelerator呢?XP並不支援845D晶片,這二個一定要安裝。
下載網址:
[URL]http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/[/URL]
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我是2000 pro有這問題
不管是裝哪個版本的驅動程式就每過一段時間一執行全螢幕就給我當當當:mad:
但用windows2000內建的驅動程式就都沒有這問題 只是內建的驅動程式真的是........!!!
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[url]http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=windows2000[/url]
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其實這問題我也發生過,這問題我認為是重改顯示卡驅動程式時與XP造成無法配合所致,也可能是灌XP時不穩所造成,最後我是重新安裝XP才解除,雖然一切重新但是換來穩定及經驗也是不錯!
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:( 我也是到windows xp update 顯示卡 driver,結果也是常常當機.後來就回復之前的 xp 內建的.現一切ok!!!(若您想要一個穩定的作業系統,那麼就換成原來的吧!!!)
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[QUOTE][i]最初由 OSCAR767676 發表[/i]
[B更新的經過微軟認證的是23.12版...沒經過認證的有26.25...26.53...27.00...27.10...27.20...我推薦27.20...效能比較好...參考參考... [/B][/QUOTE]
感謝大家的回應,知道自己不是惟一被害者的感覺,真是好多了!
我今天不死心,決定按照耕宇網站的說法,先uninstall驅動程式,再上網更新,奇蹟發生了,Power DVD XP放Mpeg 4居然撐了好久都沒當,其他的還沒時間試,希望真的沒問題.
另外27.20要在那裡下載,Nvidia網站只有23.11,還是要在其他網站下載,謝謝!
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[QUOTE][i]最初由 allen2002 發表[/i]
[B]
感謝大家的回應,知道自己不是惟一被害者的感覺,真是好多了!
我今天不死心,決定按照耕宇網站的說法,先uninstall驅動程式,再上網更新,奇蹟發生了,Power DVD XP放Mpeg 4居然撐了好久都沒當,其他的還沒時間試,希望真的沒問題.
另外27.20要在那裡下載,Nvidia網站只有23.11,還是要在其他網站下載,謝謝! [/B][/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.mydrivers.com/[/url]
簡體的...
另外,這些驅動程式沒有自動安裝檔,請用"新增移除程式"(重要)把舊的雷管移除掉後再到裝置管理員更新驅動程式。
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[URL]http://www.warp2search.net/download.php?op=viewsdownload&sid=9[/URL]
這裡有很多Beta版的雷管驅動程式,挑一個喜歡的吧:)
另外要注意的是VIA晶片組請務必安裝VIA4in1驅動程式再安裝23.xx系列的雷管,否則會造成XP無法啟動。
[URL]http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2[/URL]
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23.12還是經不起考驗,網頁看一看又表演當機,換回21.81還是比較正常.
感謝各位提供的資訊,目前準備試用27.20,希望別再耍寶了!
Mpeg IV測試,全螢幕,Windows Media player, 27.20版驅動程式,宣告陣亡,這次當的更徹底,連自動重開都不動,電腦當了一陣子"全不動天王"後,受不了就按reset.
希望看網頁不會當.....
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[QUOTE][i]最初由 allen2002 發表[/i]
[B]23.12還是經不起考驗,網頁看一看又表演當機,換回21.81還是比較正常.
感謝各位提供的資訊,目前準備試用27.20,希望別再耍寶了!
Mpeg IV測試,全螢幕,Windows Media player, 27.20版驅動程式,宣告陣亡,這次當的更徹底,連自動重開都不動,電腦當了一陣子"全不動天王"後,受不了就按reset.
希望看網頁不會當..... [/B][/QUOTE]
你能不能詳細再說一下你有安裝的軟體環境?(重點性的工具、防毒軟體)或者有沒有其他的當機訊息?當成這樣實在很離譜,有可能是別的原因造成的。
另外您還是沒說明是否有正確安裝inf&IAA。
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另外在下也發現XP跟某些螢幕驅動程式會衝突(例如samsung的液晶顯示器驅動程式),造成XP下雷管怎麼裝就是無法啟動顯示卡,害在下差點以為是geforce3掛了。後來不裝螢幕的驅動程式改成內建的即插即用監視器就ok了。
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[QUOTE][i]最初由 karoter 發表[/i]
[B]另外在下也發現XP跟某些螢幕驅動程式會衝突(例如samsung的液晶顯示器驅動程式),造成XP下雷管怎麼裝就是無法啟動顯示卡,害在下差點以為是geforce3掛了。後來不裝螢幕的驅動程式改成內建的即插即用監視器就ok了。 [/B][/QUOTE]
我用的是"內建的即插即用監視器"的驅動程式!
另外主機板晶片是Sis 645,所以intel的東東理論上是沒用的.
我把防毒軟體關了還是一樣(Norton antivirus 2002)
重點是我在XP下編輯影片(adobe premiere 6.01),會不定時當掉,所以只能邊弄邊存.
而在XP下把premiere的AVI檔,用Cleaner 5.1轉mpeg,一定到一半就當,但在Win 98SE下卻安然無恙,可以轉完,同一個作業系統,處理影像上,98SE卻比XP穩定,實在是無法理解.用XP純粹是為了用ntfs,可突破4GB的限制,如果我的ntfs for win98有作用,我決不用xp作編輯.
另外謝謝你的關心與回應!
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這樣的話,到微星的論壇看看吧,645Ultra這張主機板的討論滿多的樣子:
[URL]http://cweb.msi.com.tw/resellers_club/forum/list_board1.htm[/URL]
微星主機板驅動程式區,SIS AGP驅動程式,也有修正一些在XP下問題的樣子:
[URL]http://cweb.msi.com.tw/support/driver/mb_driver.htm[/URL]
另外在安裝任何新的驅動程式之前建議使用XP的系統還原功能製作還原點,萬一出問題還可以還原回來。
祝好運:)
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[QUOTE][i]最初由 karoter 發表[/i]
[B]這樣的話,到微星的論壇看看吧,645Ultra這張主機板的討論滿多的樣子:
[URL]http://cweb.msi.com.tw/resellers_club/forum/list_board1.htm[/URL]
微星主機板驅動程式區,SIS AGP驅動程式,也有修正一些在XP下問題的樣子:
[URL]http://cweb.msi.com.tw/support/driver/mb_driver.htm[/URL]
另外在安裝任何新的驅動程式之前建議使用XP的系統還原功能製作還原點,萬一出問題還可以還原回來。
祝好運:) [/B][/QUOTE]
謝謝,Sis AGP開始會當機時就去更新,但下場一樣.
討論區之前也看過,沒有類似的文章,不過剛剛好像有人的Geforec 2有問題,看有沒有人回應.
唉!我的XP已淪為玩Game用嗎...
本來是 98se 玩Game用,XP 是應用軟體加多媒體......
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[QUOTE][i]最初由 allen2002 發表[/i]
[B]
謝謝,Sis AGP開始會當機時就去更新,但下場一樣.
討論區之前也看過,沒有類似的文章,不過剛剛好像有人的Geforec 2有問題,看有沒有人回應.
唉!我的XP已淪為玩Game用嗎...
本來是 98se 玩Game用,XP 是應用軟體加多媒體...... [/B][/QUOTE]
真的還是不行的話不妨來這論壇問問看:
[URL]http://forum.pcdvd.com.tw/[/URL]
說真的XP若調較的好是很穩定的多工作業系統,不用滿可惜的。
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哈!哈!好像找到原因了,下面這個聯結,有人徹底討論這個問題,叫作 infinite loop (無限迴圈),本來翻譯到一半,突然跳成網頁找不到,如果大家真的看不懂,我再幫大家翻一下吧!
[url]http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.cfm?catid=13&threadid=5270[/url]
大意是說,這問題主要出現在 Geforce 2 及 3,用 Windows XP 下,驅動程式 23.11或21.83(不只吧?), 跑Direct 3D 或 OpenGL程式時發生, Windows 2000也會發生.
這種情形和 Win XP, 晶片組, Direct X 8.1, 無關(應該是說多因素加在一起造成的吧)
目前沒有修正檔.(本文是去年12月寫的)
他提了很多調整系統的方法以減少發生,大家參考看看.
我準備試試看了!
再次謝謝karoter及各位網友的回應!
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呵呵呵~~~~何止是geforce,我的tnt2顯示卡(gigabite ga622 model64)照當不誤,幾經xp內建及nvidia更新驅動程式折騰之後,依然當個不停,到最後竟然是手動安裝原驅動光碟內for2000(5.2.2.0)的驅動程式解決了問題!!!!!!(同規格晶片之FOR XP驅動程式全部當)使用至今已超過一個禮拜,未曾再出現當機狀況,也沒再看到顯示卡造成系統不穩的蹦現視窗~~~~~想想自己真是好運,同樣使用這張顯示卡的朋友可以參考看看~~~~^^"
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呵呵~~我還以為只有 Via 晶片ㄉ主機板才會這樣呢?我之前就知道了,是因為 RX55 暫存器ㄉ問題,也有不是很完全解決這個ㄉ驅動程式(它在BIOS中關閉了RX55內存寄存器)..
不過呢?我驅動程式現在用 2.7.2.0 完全就不會當機了ㄛ....
Ps.之前玩重返德軍總部玩到破關大概給我當了50次以上(2.3.1.1 版)
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我沒有用過nvidia的顯示卡,
如果...你對3D的要求不很高的話,
我建議換一張SIS310的顯示卡試試看,
速度大概 MX 200 < SIS 310 < MX 400
應該沒有這種問題...
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仔細找各大討論區都有XP 和nVidia's 當機的問題
外國站這裡也討論老半天....看來是無解了
[url]http://www.icronticforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=14427&perpage=30&pagenumber=1[/url]
我的經驗...我用過以下版本
1241
1630
2181
2183
2185
2188
2240
2250
2280
2312
2700
2710
2720
2311....其他不記得了
每次皆重新移除再安裝....
只有2185尚可...玩世紀爭霸可撐一或二小時左右才會當機 但換成使用REALPLAY 則會當機..需關掉使用最佳化顯示才可..至於MEDIA PLAY 則看運氣...其他版本則問題多多..大多是撐不到10分鐘不然就是進不了遊戲..2720也還可但變成MEDIA PLAY會當機且玩GAME 也是會當機...
配備..
WINXP PRO
MSI645
P4 1.5G
GAINWARD G2TI
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我這邊的配備:
P3 1G oc 1.05G
創見 512MB SDRAM
華碩TUSL2-C(intel815EP)
麗台gf3 ti200,oc 225/513(原先175/400)
IBM AV40G+Quantum40G
Promise Ultra100 IDE Card
SB Live!
TEAC 540E
ASUS 12X DVD
RiCOH 7083A燒錄機
台達300W Power
OS:Windows XP Pro中文版
在下從21.83用到27.20,沒有出過問題,除了效能有差別之外,參考看看~
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我貼一下關於這問題ㄉ驅動程式ㄉ說明吧..
This is a BETA patch only - NOT an official release. If you downloaded this patch anywhere apart from the VIA Arena forums, please visit [url]http://forums.viaarena.com/[/url] for more information.
VIA Technologies, Inc. takes no responsibility for the use of this patch.
Hi All,
I have an update for you. Thanks for being so patient. Here is a beta patch. I must stress very strongly the word BETA here. This patch has to go through more testing in Taiwan from several departments before it is released officially and in fact will probably end up being a silent install patch in the next version of the 4in1 drivers ?that is if further rigorous testing proves that it is in fact a fix to this issue. If you choose to install this patch on your computer, you do so at your own risk and full responsibility yourself. Speaking frankly, normally new fixes, patchs, drivers and the like are never released beta to the public. We do not like to use end users as guinea pig testers so to speak. However, many people in these forums have asked for the details and you have all been very patient and helpful in giving me information so out of respect for you I am making it available as a beta fix. To install it, unzip the file and run the setup.exe Do not run the setup from the compressed folder.
它能做什麼呢?它在BIOS中關閉了RX55內存寄存器!
So what does it do? It closes the RX55 memory register in BIOS. The RX55 register's official name and function is Memory Write Queue (MWQ) timer. The MWQ timer is actually a timing device included in the memory host controller to prevent write data being held in the memory queue too long. After the data has been in the queue too long it times out. This timed out data is then given a higher write request priority. Now that might sound nice ?a bit of extra performance BUT the procedure fails when overloaded. 3D games and Win XP put too much load on the memory queuing timer procedure. The nVidia new driver exaggerates the problem even more as the driver enables nVidia cards to use even more memory than previous driver versions.
So in a nutshell it抯 a memory timing problem that only happens when the RX55 register is opened. Some motherboard manufacturers have already released new BIOS that have the register closed. In other instances, this patch is needed.
One thing I have noticed is that I think some people in this thread are confusing one issue with the issue that I am referring to here. Symptoms I am talking about are the infinite loop error, dropping to desktop in 3D games or spontaneous reboot in 3D games. What I strongly suggest is that you try these trouble shooting suggestions before trying the patch:
- Load optimized defaults in your BIOS and do not modify memory settings
- set your memory settings in the BIOS less aggressively and test
- make sure you have an adequate power supply
- update your BIOS and test
- disable or enable AGP fast write and test (this has worked for some people)
The reason that I make these suggestions is that I think some people are confusing general instability because their systems are being pushed to the max, with this error. For example, if you have a 250watt power supply, 128mb RAM and have all your memory settings at max then you may be asking for trouble ?the symptoms may be similar to this issue but it抯 not the same. If you still get the issue after gong through these suggestions then try the beta patch (if you want to ?remember it is BETA).
This thread I think has broken a new record in these forums. I am going to lock it but also keep it at the top of the category so that it抯 easily available to people as there抯 quite a lot of useful information in it. I??l also start a new thread with this announcement so that no one misses it.
From: [url]http://forums.viaarena.com/messageview.cfm?start=201&catid=13&threadid=3759[/url]
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我的更慘,剛裝好就當,然後重開,開完後說我的 Ati Radeon有問題,我就打算更新 driver ,結果開個檔案總管也當,X...這樣要我怎樣更新啊?
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karoter,你運氣真不錯.
終於有和我一樣主機版的人,5967,看來正如我看到的文章一樣,不只只有Via的晶片,有人試過關掉 RX55 memory register in BIOS 的檔嗎?我已經忍不住想試了,我再努力找找有無辦法解決吧!也希望nVidia,microsoft可找到解決辦法吧!(雖然不太可能),看來看去還是 98SE 可愛,可是,為了編輯影片檔,害我迫不得已要把檔案切開(超過4GB),終於在 98SE 下,壓完我小姪女的影片,實在有點鬱卒,不過照我連結的文章調了一下,真的撐比較久不當,但還是會當,唉.....
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[QUOTE][i]最初由 OSCAR767676 發表[/i]
[B]....我是沒有用到"正版"啦...以前灌英文加中文語言包時,也和你一樣(我是用Geforce2MX)...我也是氣憤到把XP給洗了...後來我COPY到中文版再灌時,已經沒有問題了...你先看看顯示卡有沒有插緊...再看看記憶體有沒有問題....若再不行...把驅動程式殺了(用新增移除程式)...裝裝看更舊或更新的驅動....更舊的XP能用的是16.xx版...更新的經過微軟認證的是23.12版...沒經過認證的有26.25...26.53...27.00...27.10...27.20...我推薦27.20...效能比較好...參考參考... [/B][/QUOTE]
丫~我的素ELSA Gefoce2mmx BIOS素3.11.00.18.34版哦
第一次用27.00正常
第二次用27.10開某些東西不正常
第三次用27.20用32bit全彩會當機
第四次用27.30不敢開全彩沒事.....
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我的雜牌Geforce2 MX(不知道捨牌)用任何版本都不會當哦∼∼
27.30 + XP + PIII733 3DMark2001 1024x768x32 2312分(沒超)
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看大家的經驗好像都是換了新的驅動程式比較不會當。
我這邊卻剛好相反,用 XP 內建的驅動程式穩得很,換了兩版雷管驅動程式,很容易當,屢試不爽。
說一下,我的是 XP 2600 + MUI。
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This problem is very complex ("Infinite Loop"). Their exist many problems that can cause the "Infinite Loop".
1. Poorly implemented AGP signal interfaces that can barely do 2X, i.e., motherboard PCB layout. (signal integrity, failure to meet AGP 2.0 specification)
2. Bugs in north bridge AGP to Memory interface. (register x55 in VIA chipsets)
3. Improper support of 2nd tier AGP interface's from Graphic card companies. (Nvidia)
4. Improper support of 2nd tier AGP interface's from OS vendors. (Microsoft)
5. Inadequate support of 2nd tier AGP interface's to support graphic card and OS vendors. (VIA)
6. Bugs in graphic card and OS vendors code.
以上是我在外國網站上,看到一個叫 "CodeHacker" 的人post,似乎真的提供了詳細的原因,但真偽難辨.
以下是有人整理的情況及方法,但目前仍無完全解決的辦法.
Firstly, the facts:
- This happens on all manufacturers chipsets (ALi, VIA, SiS, AMD Intel). It is NOT a chip manufacturer's fault
- This happens on all graphics card manufacturers, and seems to be limited to AGP (with very few exceptions). These have included nVidia, 3dfx, ATi and 3DLabs.
- It is limited strictly to the Windows NT Kernel, and happens about 98% of the time on windowsXP. Reports have been heard that it also happens on win2k, but it is rarer in this case.
- As of the time of writing, there is no all emcompassing fix, and finding a solution is very dependant on your system configuration.
Now...possible solutions:
- Try a different set of drivers. What works will depend on your system. If you are using an nvidia card, some report the problem to be fixed using drivers 23.XX, however, in some cases these make the problem worse! The 27.XX drivers work in a similar way, and have fixed it for some, and made it worse for others. You should try each and find which is the best for you, even if it just reduces the frequency of the errors. Of course, if you have a different card, you'll need to investigate which set is best for you.
- Install the VIA 4.37A (or latest) drivers if you have a VIA chipset, and install any of the latest drivers for your chipset if it is not VIA.
- Install the VIA latency patch (if you have a VIA chipset) (VIA晶片的人,有人真的可以解決這問題)
- Disable Fast Writes and SideBand Addressing (In both BIOS and any tweak utilities)
- Upgrade your system BIOS to the latest version.
- Reduce your desktop colour settings to 16bit colour (那...買好的顯示卡幹嘛?)
- Reduce your AGP speed to 2x (那...買好的顯示卡幹嘛?)
- Reduce your AGP aperture to 64MB or less
- Try increasing I/O voltage by one of two values in your BIOS. (我無法調,國外有人說這是大笑話,不知有人試成功嗎?)
- Try reseating your card in it's slot. Have it pushed up as far as you can without any possible damage.
- If you are overclocking..stop. If not, try reducing your bus speed.
我'當機的情況:
1.Windows media player 全營幕看 VCD 或 Mpeg4, 不定時, 從 21.81 到 27.30 都無解, 新的驅動程式好像撐比較久, 但易造成上網會當.
2.執行 Adobe premiere 編影片時,不定時, 新的比較少當
3.看網頁時,不定時, 27.20, 27.30的驅動程式開沒幾個就當了,舊的還比較穩.
4.我沒在 Windows XP 玩 Game, 所以不曉得, 國外好像多是玩 3D Game會當.
大家提一下會當的情況吧!還有大家試驅動程式的情形吧!
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VIA晶片的使用者先試著安裝VIA 4in1 4.37a版吧,在下的一位朋友也是這樣解決23.xx不能用的情形,更新之後可以完整跑完3D Mark2001,華碩的Gf3 ti200,雷管23.12。
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[QUOTE][i]最初由 pj4038 發表[/i]
[B]小弟淺見,更新BIOS看看 [/B][/QUOTE]
你謙虛了,這的確是一個辦法,這是國外網友 black dog 在2月10日國外討論區報告更改 ATI 8500 的情況,本來似乎成功了,但幾小時後,他又報告他的情形, 3d Mark 連續 4 hours 沒問題, 玩 Game 沒問題, 但跳出 Game 時, infinite loop show 又來了.
Status: Resolved!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok guys hears the deal, I finally tracked the bug down to a corrupt Video Rom Bios file. So to fix it I downloaded a program from [url]www.filemirrors.com[/url] called flashradeon8500.zip which is a bios flash utility for Radeon 8500 cards. I ran a check on my Video card bios version and found that I have the official retail bios version, which is acccurate as I have an official (boxed) retail card. I first tried replacing this bios (Pal) with an NSTC version of the retail bios. I ran 3D mark and it still froze. So next I opted to try the OEM version of the Bios, which apparently drives the card at slightly lower voltages. Result: I have had 3D mark running now for the last hour without a glitch!!!! So folks its finally clear to me who is to blame for all this grief. It is the video card makers and the video card makers alone. They are shipping their cards with screwy or inappropriate bios versions. The good news for Nvidia fans is that I believe there is a similar utility for Nvidia cards. (Although I'm not sure what it is (you can try what I did and search on Google using the terms Flash bios Nvidea utility, and then search file mirrors.com for the file. Unfortunately as far as ATI are concerned, they do not want you to have this file. So just be aware that by downloading it, you may be breaking some law or other, depending on what country you are in. As for why they don't want us to have it, God alone knows... Perhaps they are terrified of actually admiting that it was they and they alone who have totally screwed up with this. In any case, just so long as you know it isn't something I am encouraging you to do. If you did decide to take that risk, just be sure (for ATI Radeon cards) that it contains a file called Flashrom.rom, as one or two don't and the utility will only work if its there. If you have XP you will also need a 98/ME bootdisk, as this program can only be run in DOS mode.
改 nVidia bios 我曾想過,但畢竟有風險,而且沒看到有人因此成功,所以仍觀望中.不知 pj4038 兄有無此方面的經驗?
另外有人測出在低解析度下, 640 X 480 , 跑的很穩, 但一但超過 1024 X 768 16 bit, 就有 infinite loop show, 我的解析度是 1024 X 768 32bit, 沒有試過低解析度是否很穩, 因為降低顯示品質, 實在是沒道理...,其他很穩的網友的解析度不知是什麼?
nVidia 27.40 beta driver 出來了, 對我而言,光看網頁就拼命當,只好把它打入冷宮.
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[QUOTE][i]最初由 pj4038 發表[/i]
[B]小弟淺見,更新BIOS看看 [/B][/QUOTE]
你謙虛了,這的確是一個辦法,這是國外網友 black dog 在2月10日國外討論區報告更改 ATI 8500 的情況,本來似乎成功了,但幾小時後,他又報告他的情形, 3d Mark 連續 4 hours 沒問題, 玩 Game 沒問題, 但跳出 Game 時, infinite loop show 又來了.
Status: Resolved!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok guys hears the deal, I finally tracked the bug down to a corrupt Video Rom Bios file. So to fix it I downloaded a program from [url]www.filemirrors.com[/url] called flashradeon8500.zip which is a bios flash utility for Radeon 8500 cards. I ran a check on my Video card bios version and found that I have the official retail bios version, which is acccurate as I have an official (boxed) retail card. I first tried replacing this bios (Pal) with an NSTC version of the retail bios. I ran 3D mark and it still froze. So next I opted to try the OEM version of the Bios, which apparently drives the card at slightly lower voltages. Result: I have had 3D mark running now for the last hour without a glitch!!!! So folks its finally clear to me who is to blame for all this grief. It is the video card makers and the video card makers alone. They are shipping their cards with screwy or inappropriate bios versions. The good news for Nvidia fans is that I believe there is a similar utility for Nvidia cards. (Although I'm not sure what it is (you can try what I did and search on Google using the terms Flash bios Nvidea utility, and then search file mirrors.com for the file. Unfortunately as far as ATI are concerned, they do not want you to have this file. So just be aware that by downloading it, you may be breaking some law or other, depending on what country you are in. As for why they don't want us to have it, God alone knows... Perhaps they are terrified of actually admiting that it was they and they alone who have totally screwed up with this. In any case, just so long as you know it isn't something I am encouraging you to do. If you did decide to take that risk, just be sure (for ATI Radeon cards) that it contains a file called Flashrom.rom, as one or two don't and the utility will only work if its there. If you have XP you will also need a 98/ME bootdisk, as this program can only be run in DOS mode.
改 nVidia bios 我曾想過,但畢竟有風險,而且沒看到有人因此成功,所以仍觀望中.不知 pj4038 兄有無此方面的經驗?
另外有人測出在低解析度下, 640 X 480 , 跑的很穩, 但一但超過 1024 X 768 16 bit, 就有 infinite loop show, 我的解析度是 1024 X 768 32bit, 沒有試過低解析度是否很穩, 因為降低顯示品質, 實在是沒道理...,其他很穩的網友的解析度不知是什麼?
nVidia 27.42 beta driver 出來了, 對我而言,光看網頁就拼命當,只好把它打入冷宮.
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[QUOTE][i]最初由 allen2002 發表[/i]
[B]
你謙虛了,這的確是一個辦法,這是國外網友 black dog 在2月10日國外討論區報告更改 ATI 8500 的情況,本來似乎成功了,但幾小時後,他又報告他的情形, 3d Mark 連續 4 hours 沒問題, 玩 Game 沒問題, 但跳出 Game 時, infinite loop show 又來了.
Status: Resolved!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok guys hears the deal, I finally tracked the bug down to a corrupt Video Rom Bios file. So to fix it I downloaded a program from [url]www.filemirrors.com[/url] called flashradeon8500.zip which is a bios flash utility for Radeon 8500 cards. I ran a check on my Video card bios version and found that I have the official retail bios version, which is acccurate as I have an official (boxed) retail card. I first tried replacing this bios (Pal) with an NSTC version of the retail bios. I ran 3D mark and it still froze. So next I opted to try the OEM version of the Bios, which apparently drives the card at slightly lower voltages. Result: I have had 3D mark running now for the last hour without a glitch!!!! So folks its finally clear to me who is to blame for all this grief. It is the video card makers and the video card makers alone. They are shipping their cards with screwy or inappropriate bios versions. The good news for Nvidia fans is that I believe there is a similar utility for Nvidia cards. (Although I'm not sure what it is (you can try what I did and search on Google using the terms Flash bios Nvidea utility, and then search file mirrors.com for the file. Unfortunately as far as ATI are concerned, they do not want you to have this file. So just be aware that by downloading it, you may be breaking some law or other, depending on what country you are in. As for why they don't want us to have it, God alone knows... Perhaps they are terrified of actually admiting that it was they and they alone who have totally screwed up with this. In any case, just so long as you know it isn't something I am encouraging you to do. If you did decide to take that risk, just be sure (for ATI Radeon cards) that it contains a file called Flashrom.rom, as one or two don't and the utility will only work if its there. If you have XP you will also need a 98/ME bootdisk, as this program can only be run in DOS mode.
改 nVidia bios 我曾想過,但畢竟有風險,而且沒看到有人因此成功,所以仍觀望中.不知 pj4038 兄有無此方面的經驗?
另外有人測出在低解析度下, 640 X 480 , 跑的很穩, 但一但超過 1024 X 768 16 bit, 就有 infinite loop show, 我的解析度是 1024 X 768 32bit, 沒有試過低解析度是否很穩, 因為降低顯示品質, 實在是沒道理...,其他很穩的網友的解析度不知是什麼?
nVidia 27.40 beta driver 出來了, 對我而言,光看網頁就拼命當,只好把它打入冷宮. [/B][/QUOTE]
本人之前原本一直都使用Win2000 AD server後來一次因為太累眼睛花了,錯把Linux裝在我的W2k主硬碟而不是我常用的測試硬碟,導致資料全毀,又因急於使用電腦,灌2000太耗時間,所以才嘗試使用WinXP pro,一灌好後雖然大部份的硬體都抓的到,但仍有些抓不到的,像3C905C-TX-M網卡之類的,而且還有音爆,遊戲不能玩(某些)等等,害我一直上網抓driver,抓了最新版的也沒用,灌修正檔也沒用,搞的快瘋掉ㄏㄏ,所有方法都試過後,我仔細想想,除了BIOS外其他都試過了,好ㄅ,就先更新主版的BIOS看看ㄅ,阿勒,結果就這麼好了,到現在,我連續開機1個月了,除了偶而連線中斷外,不曾當過,那些小毛病全都沒了,穩的很,當然,更新BIOS是會有風險,但當你只剩這最後一招可用時,我想我也沒有選擇的餘地吧,那些小毛病發起來真會讓人瘋掉,個人認為如果您別的方式都試過了,不妨先更新主板的BIOS看看,再不行才來考慮VGA Card的BIOS應該比較妥當吧,這是我個人的見解,請你參考看看
PS:還有,開網頁開Outlook會當我曾經幫客戶處理過,弄了很久,後來由更換CPU獲得解決,其間Windows灌了N次,所有硬體都一樣樣的更新測試,就只剩CPU沒換,唉,每次你最不想它壞的地方,偏偏它就給你壞那裡,但很多同行都說CPU壞了最難知道因為要拆CPU下來要拔掉很多零件,所以修電腦的大都儘量不想動它(因為懶,me too^^),但我想上面的問題應該不是這問題吧,因為太多人有同樣的問題了
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[QUOTE][i]最初由 pj4038 發表[/i]
[B]
本人之前原本一直都使用Win2000 AD server後來一次因為太累眼睛花了,錯把Linux裝在我的W2k主硬碟而不是我常用的測試硬碟,導致資料全毀,又因急於使用電腦,灌2000太耗時間,所以才嘗試使用WinXP pro,一灌好後雖然大部份的硬體都抓的到,但仍有些抓不到的,像3C905C-TX-M網卡之類的,而且還有音爆,遊戲不能玩(某些)等等,害我一直上網抓driver,抓了最新版的也沒用,灌修正檔也沒用,搞的快瘋掉ㄏㄏ,所有方法都試過後,我仔細想想,除了BIOS外其他都試過了,好ㄅ,就先更新主版的BIOS看看ㄅ,阿勒,結果就這麼好了,到現在,我連續開機1個月了,除了偶而連線中斷外,不曾當過,那些小毛病全都沒了,穩的很,當然,更新BIOS是會有風險,但當你只剩這最後一招可用時,我想我也沒有選擇的餘地吧,那些小毛病發起來真會讓人瘋掉,個人認為如果您別的方式都試過了,不妨先更新主板的BIOS看看,再不行才來考慮VGA Card的BIOS應該比較妥當吧,這是我個人的見解,請你參考看看
PS:還有,開網頁開Outlook會當我曾經幫客戶處理過,弄了很久,後來由更換CPU獲得解決,其間Windows灌了N次,所有硬體都一樣樣的更新測試,就只剩CPU沒換,唉,每次你最不想它壞的地方,偏偏它就給你壞那裡,但很多同行都說CPU壞了最難知道,但我想上面的問題應該不是這問題吧,因為太多人有同樣的問題了 [/B][/QUOTE]
謝謝你的意見,主機板 bios 之前已經更新到最新, 比舊的穩很多(在發現 infinite loop 前), 但目前仍無法解決 infinite loop.
另外網頁方面, 用舊的 driver 就沒問題,只是舊的 driver 在看影片或編影片很快就掛,但新的剛好相反, 重點是不定時最氣人.
如果我真的手癢,可能會考慮調顯然卡的 bios 或更新吧!其實程式我早已下載,只是不敢試...