HINET 2M/256K玩射擊遊戲ping太高, 想換FTTx, 求心得分享



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kkt168
2009-10-18, 09:37 PM
光世代......
上傳的縮圖http://www.pczone.com.tw/attachments/forum73/19387d1255871940t-72.51.60.174.jpg (http://www.pczone.com.tw/attachments/forum73/19387d1255871940-72.51.60.174.jpg)



哇、你這還叫做 光纖網路 嗎?
我目前也是差不多如此,但我只有 2M/256K
一個月全部費用,包括 市內電話基本費,才 762 元而已。

C:\>ping -t 72.51.60.174
Pinging 72.51.60.174 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=252ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=255ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=238ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=246ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=254ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=252ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=260ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=235ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=252ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=250ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=255ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=247ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=244ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=252ms TTL=113
Reply from 72.51.60.174: bytes=32 time=257ms TTL=113
Ping statistics for 72.51.60.174:
Packets: Sent = 15, Received = 15, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 235ms, Maximum = 260ms, Average = 249ms
Control-C
^C
C:\>

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RouterOS
2009-10-18, 09:39 PM
哇、你這還叫做 [COLOR=#8b0000]光纖網路 嗎?


所以你要換嗎?

sp063439
2009-10-18, 09:48 PM
哇哩勒.....
建議版大可以去爬文一下ISP<->user之間的互聯機制

目前seednet機房端是這樣



traceroute to 72.51.60.174 (72.51.60.174), 25 hops max, 44 byte packets
1 139.175.55.3 (139.175.55.3) 0.454 ms 0.305 ms 0.308 ms
2 R57-94 (139.175.57.94) 0.326 ms 0.342 ms 0.322 ms
3 R58-18 (139.175.58.18) 130.397 ms 130.538 ms 130.423 ms
4 R56-82 (139.175.56.82) 190.921 ms 130.490 ms 191.073 ms
5 xe-9-0-0-103.sjc10.ip4.tinet.net (77.67.69.125) 141.771 ms 143.455 ms 162.817 ms
6 level3-10ge-peering (77.67.69.98) 131.853 ms 190.071 ms 135.876 ms
7 vlan99.csw4.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.254) 154.099 ms vlan79.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.126) 161.657 ms vlan69.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.62) 145.693 ms
8 ae-82-82.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.217) 146.550 ms ae-72-72.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.213) 138.140 ms ae-92-92.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.221) 144.135 ms
9 ae-3.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net (4.69.132.58) 192.846 ms 197.323 ms 200.423 ms
10 ae-1-100.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net (4.69.132.38) 194.583 ms 199.246 ms 201.932 ms
11 ae-3.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.132.62) 178.063 ms 173.995 ms 174.295 ms
12 ae-6.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.69.140.189) 190.818 ms 200.532 ms 198.396 ms
13 ae-14-51.car4.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.68.101.8) 178.100 ms 180.677 ms 181.896 ms
14 PEER-1-NETW.car4.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.71.102.14) 187.643 ms 187.625 ms 183.718 ms
15 72.51.60.174 (72.51.60.174) 178.920 ms 174.513 ms 174.681 ms


個人不太喜歡的tfn是這樣


Executing exec(traceroute, -m 30 -q 3 -f 3, 72.51.60.174, 140)
traceroute to 72.51.60.174 (72.51.60.174), 30 hops max, 140 byte packets
3 219-80-240-21.static.tfn.net.tw (219.80.240.21) 1.806 ms 1.625 ms 1.473 ms
4 60-199-6-2.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.6.2) 1.761 ms 1.562 ms 1.893 ms
5 60-199-6-230.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.6.230) 2.081 ms 2.089 ms 1.816 ms
6 ge9-8.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.247.161) 3.294 ms ge9-7.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.247.157) 2.238 ms ge9-6.br02.tap01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.247.153) 2.279 ms
7 GIG2-0.sea-dis-2.peer1.net (206.81.80.38) 173.404 ms 172.488 ms 172.406 ms
8 oc48.so-3-2-0.van-hc21e-cor-1.peer1.net (216.187.88.29) 176.397 ms 176.264 ms 176.190 ms
9 oc48.so-3-0-2.tor-151f-cor-1.peer1.net (216.187.114.138) 236.557 ms 237.131 ms 236.589 ms
10 10ge.xe-0-0-0.tor-1yg-cor-1.peer1.net (216.187.114.133) 236.963 ms 236.767 ms 237.015 ms
11 oc48-po5-0.chi-eqx-dis-1.peer1.net (216.187.114.141) 221.593 ms 221.398 ms 221.823 ms
12 72.51.60.174 (72.51.60.174) 231.240 ms 229.427 ms 230.172 ms

一般user,要看所申請之產品"物理數據"再加上面"isp機房"ping數據
光世代大概15ms ADSL30~40ms

但據版上眾多前輩所言,isp會對ping的封包"優先化"
簡單的說,就是看ping不一定準....

最後,悄悄的發現
其實seednet的連美還不差XD

kkt168
2009-10-18, 09:58 PM
你怎麼聽不懂呢?
不管你申請什麼,專線、光纖到家、光纖VDSL、ADSL,都還要從你的所在地再連到ISP機房
也就是說,ping值只會比我上面給你的數值再增加,不可能減少
從你現在使用的ADSL ping值266ms換成光纖VDSL 3M or 10M ping值的確可以改善個20ms~30ms
但是你依然只有看到對方就死的份

我現在ISP是HINET,那如果我換ISP,
如 seednet so-net giga cable....等等。
換了 ISP 骨幹線路不一樣了, 對外國的ping值會改善嗎?

sp063439
2009-10-18, 09:59 PM
我現在ISP是HINET,那如果我換ISP,
如 seednet so-net giga cable....等等。
換了 ISP 骨幹線路不一樣了, 對外國的ping值會改善嗎?

建議版大爬文XD

BenLi
2009-10-18, 10:03 PM
我現在ISP是HINET,那如果我換ISP,
如 seednet so-net giga cable....等等。
換了 ISP 骨幹線路不一樣了, 對外國的ping值會改善嗎?
換ISP如果走的路由不一樣,的確是會有不同結果
#13有人提供了seednet機房的數值,如果申請光纖VDSL 10M的話,約再增加 15ms~20ms,也就是190ms~200ms左右
如果這是你玩fps game 能接受的數值你就換吧

kkt168
2009-10-18, 10:08 PM
建議版大爬文XD
我是有爬過很多了,
但我 只要針對這個遊戲網站而已 72.51.60.174
真的太好玩了,遠遠勝過 CS 一大階。

sp063439
2009-10-18, 10:10 PM
我是有爬過很多了,
但我 只要針對這個遊戲網站而已 72.51.60.174
真的太好玩了,遠遠勝過 CS 一大階。

如果版大真的爬過文了,相信版大應該是不會問這些問題的(因為貼錯版...)

supermaxfight
2009-10-18, 11:17 PM
seednet 10M/2M 晚上11:00測
比hinet好一點
蛋200ms依舊是槍把...:king:

Tracing route to 72.51.60.174 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 20 ms 38 ms 20 ms 112-104.........
2 20 ms 29 ms 21 ms 192.72.178.253
3 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms R57-133.seed.net.tw [139.175.57.133]
4 34 ms 36 ms 20 ms R56-193.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.193]
5 159 ms 150 ms * R58-18.seed.net.tw [139.175.58.18]
6 250 ms 217 ms 235 ms R56-82.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.82]
7 170 ms 174 ms 167 ms xe-9-0-0-103.sjc10.ip4.tinet.net [77.67.69.125]

8 163 ms 164 ms 164 ms level3-10ge-peering [77.67.69.98]
9 182 ms 180 ms 181 ms vlan69.csw1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.68.18.62]
10 200 ms 166 ms 175 ms ae-62-62.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.134.209]

11 242 ms 214 ms 217 ms ae-3.ebr1.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.58]
12 212 ms 215 ms 215 ms ae-1-100.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net [4.69.132.38]
13 219 ms 199 ms 198 ms ae-3.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net [4.69.132.62]
14 204 ms 202 ms 213 ms ae-6.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.69.140.189]
15 202 ms 219 ms 202 ms ae-14-55.car4.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.68.101.136]

16 198 ms 209 ms 198 ms PEER-1-NETW.car4.Chicago1.Level3.net [4.71.102.1
4]
17 206 ms 209 ms 211 ms 72.51.60.174

Trace complete.

tvirus
2009-10-19, 12:49 AM
Seednet 10M/2M固8 VDSL要240ms左右...
Hinet 10M/2M固3 VDSL也是要240ms左右...
封包優先權更高的固定專線花費是你目前花費的超過10倍甚至百倍...
我在猜,就算換了ISP,在怎樣都是要150ms以上...

既然喜歡玩個鐵定變槍靶的遊戲...
那就使出終極解決方案:








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