華信與google



贊助商連結


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cos
2009-08-24, 01:32 PM
我在想,除了海纜斷,沒其他的替代路走之外,一、可能hinet 的內部員工也希望到 google 是在國內直連吧,畢竟google 真的很好用。二、hinet 高層意識到民意的趨勢,改變了路由。以上純屬臆測。:mummy: anyway 直連是好事 :lovely:

贊助商連結


darksnow
2009-08-25, 08:15 PM
應該是dns解析出IP的關係

dns.hinet.net不知道是cache還沒清掉還是怎樣,

www.google.com www.gmail.com 解析出的IP都是香港google的,

換168.95.192.1解析出的就是台灣google。


反映給hinet後,回覆這樣


經測試hinet dns 168.95.1.1已可解析www.google.com.tw至72.14.203網段,煩請確認,謝謝!!




結果我測試時發現一個怪問題

DNS不變,都是168.95.1.1

用我hinet 61.22x開頭的IP連上去查,出現的都是香港google的IP

> www.google.com
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.l.google.com
Addresses: 64.233.189.104, 64.233.189.99, 64.233.189.147
Aliases: www.google.com


> www.google.com.tw
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.l.google.com
Addresses: 64.233.189.147, 64.233.189.99, 64.233.189.104
Aliases: www.google.com.tw, www.google.com




把線路換成seednet的,用seednet 59.10x開頭的IP,
連到168.95.1.1查詢,出現的都是台灣google的IP



> www.google.com
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.l.google.com
Addresses: 72.14.203.147, 72.14.203.99, 72.14.203.105, 72.14.203.104
72.14.203.103, 72.14.203.106
Aliases: www.google.com


> www.google.com.tw
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.l.google.com
Addresses: 74.125.153.103, 74.125.153.106, 74.125.153.105, 74.125.153.104
74.125.153.147, 74.125.153.99
Aliases: www.google.com.tw, www.google.com



還真是奇怪啊.............

acion
2009-08-25, 08:45 PM
反映給hinet後,回覆這樣


經測試hinet dns 168.95.1.1已可解析www.google.com.tw至72.14.203網段,煩請確認,謝謝!!




結果我測試時發現一個怪問題

DNS不變,都是168.95.1.1

用我hinet 61.22x開頭的IP連上去查,出現的都是香港google的IP

> www.google.com
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.l.google.com
Addresses: 64.233.189.104, 64.233.189.99, 64.233.189.147
Aliases: www.google.com


> www.google.com.tw
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.l.google.com
Addresses: 64.233.189.147, 64.233.189.99, 64.233.189.104
Aliases: www.google.com.tw, www.google.com




把線路換成seednet的,用seednet 59.10x開頭的IP,
連到168.95.1.1查詢,出現的都是台灣google的IP



> www.google.com
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.l.google.com
Addresses: 72.14.203.147, 72.14.203.99, 72.14.203.105, 72.14.203.104
72.14.203.103, 72.14.203.106
Aliases: www.google.com


> www.google.com.tw
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.l.google.com
Addresses: 74.125.153.103, 74.125.153.106, 74.125.153.105, 74.125.153.104
74.125.153.147, 74.125.153.99
Aliases: www.google.com.tw, www.google.com



還真是奇怪啊.............
hinet固3

Microsoft Windows XP [版本 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>TRACERT www.gmail.com

Tracing route to googlemail.l.google.com [72.14.203.19]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 16 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.1
2 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms 59-120-3-254.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59.120.3.254]
3 14 ms 19 ms 16 ms tp-s2-c76r6.router.hinet.net [168.95.81.202]
4 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms tp-crs11.router.hinet.net [220.128.4.142]
5 16 ms 20 ms 15 ms pr03-s2.tp.hinet.net [220.128.4.45]
6 14 ms 15 ms 13 ms r01-s2.tp.hinet.net [220.128.3.42]
7 20 ms 16 ms 18 ms 203.75.135.38
8 15 ms 13 ms 14 ms 209.85.243.30
9 15 ms 14 ms 16 ms 209.85.250.103
10 37 ms 36 ms 16 ms 209.85.241.158
11 18 ms 23 ms 14 ms tx-in-f19.google.com [72.14.203.19]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>

darksnow
2009-08-26, 10:19 AM
hinet固3

Microsoft Windows XP [版本 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>TRACERT www.gmail.com

Tracing route to googlemail.l.google.com [72.14.203.19]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 16 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.1
2 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms 59-120-3-254.HINET-IP.hinet.net [59.120.3.254]



看來真的不同網段的IP,用168.95.1.1查詢的結果都不同
來反映看看好了

adamkuo
2009-08-29, 12:19 AM
Hinet的DNS,向來都有不同步的問題~
十多年了也不改善,每次新開Domain就會發現~
全世界ISP的DNS都更新完畢就他的起笑~
不是記錯的資料就是記到慢的路由點...

genuineintel
2009-08-29, 08:20 AM
Hinet的DNS,向來都有不同步的問題~
十多年了也不改善,每次新開Domain就會發現~
全世界ISP的DNS都更新完畢就他的起笑~
不是記錯的資料就是記到慢的路由點...

可能還是使用8088 CPU的古董IBM PC/XT吧!只有4.77MHz。

賺了那麼多錢,也該升級一下了,採用80286 CPU的IBM PC/AT應該會快一點,20MHz應該夠用了。:sleep:

cos
2010-01-22, 09:39 PM
剛發現,hinet 又出國去找 google 了

Tracing the route to googlemail.l.google.com (74.125.153.19)

1 tp-s2-c6r16.router.hinet.net (210.65.161.22) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
2 tp-crs11.router.hinet.net (220.128.1.146) 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
3 r04-s2.tp.hinet.net (220.128.3.97) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
4 r02-s2.tp.hinet.net (220.128.4.78) 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
5 r02-pa.us.hinet.net (211.72.108.205) 132 msec 136 msec 132 msec
6 12.116.52.33 148 msec 144 msec 148 msec
7 cr2.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.136.210) 144 msec 144 msec 144 msec
8 ggr3.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.136.21) 144 msec 144 msec 148 msec
9 att-gw.sanfran.level3.net (192.205.33.82) 144 msec 144 msec 148 msec
10 vlan89.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.190) 152 msec 148 msec 160 msec
11 ae-82-82.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.217) 148 msec 156 msec 148 msec
12 ae-7.ebr1.Seattle1.Level3.net (4.69.132.50) 180 msec 164 msec 176 msec
13 ae-1-51.edge1.Seattle3.Level3.net (4.68.105.12) 164 msec 208 msec 164 msec
14 GOOGLE-INC.edge1.Seattle3.Level3.net (4.59.232.34) 164 msec 160 msec 152 msec
15 209.85.249.32 156 msec 208 msec 152 msec
16 209.85.248.130 140 msec 140 msec
209.85.249.16 156 msec
17 209.85.250.86 140 msec
72.14.239.12 164 msec
209.85.242.250 140 msec
18 209.85.243.23 136 msec 136 msec
209.85.243.21 140 msec
19 72.14.233.126 148 msec
72.14.233.130 148 msec
72.14.233.126 140 msec
20 209.85.243.23 144 msec
googlemail.l.google.com (74.125.153.19) 140 msec
209.85.243.23 140 msec

rogershu
2010-01-22, 10:19 PM
1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 10.10.0.254
2 * 27 ms 18 ms 218-169-0-254.dynamic.hinet.net [218.169.0
3 18 ms 19 ms 21 ms pt-c6r2.router.hinet.net [168.95.51.74]
4 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms pt-c12r2.router.hinet.net [211.22.228.174]
5 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms kh-c12r12.router.hinet.net [220.128.25.50]
6 26 ms 27 ms 26 ms tp-crs12.router.hinet.net [220.128.2.86]
7 25 ms 26 ms 25 ms r03-s2.tp.hinet.net [220.128.4.45]
8 29 ms 26 ms 26 ms r01-s2.tp.hinet.net [220.128.3.78]
9 27 ms 26 ms 26 ms 203.75.135.42
10 27 ms 26 ms 68 ms 209.85.243.26
11 46 ms 48 ms 45 ms 209.85.250.123
12 56 ms 56 ms 57 ms 66.249.94.6
13 47 ms 48 ms 47 ms hkg01s01-in-f18.1e100.net [64.233.189.18]


剛才試了一下,跑去香港了……但沒像樓上的這麼慘,還是這是隨機的?

RIDER
2010-01-22, 11:17 PM
1 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms 114-42-32-254.dynamic.hinet.net [114.42.32.254]

2 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms tp-e4-c76r2.router.hinet.net [168.95.101.134]
3 12 ms 12 ms 13 ms tp-e4-t64-2.router.hinet.net [211.22.36.182]
4 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms tp-crs12.router.hinet.net [220.128.2.170]
5 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms r03-s2.tp.hinet.net [220.128.4.45]
6 12 ms 12 ms 13 ms r01-s2.tp.hinet.net [220.128.3.249]
7 17 ms 14 ms 14 ms 203.75.135.38
8 13 ms 12 ms 14 ms 209.85.243.26
9 14 ms 29 ms 16 ms 209.85.250.103
10 20 ms 25 ms 18 ms 72.14.238.222
11 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms tz-in-f106.1e100.net [64.233.183.106]

我的看起來應該還是在台灣

hinet 10/2

cos
2010-01-23, 01:49 PM
我發現這和你使用的 dns 有關
如果你解出來 mail.google.com 是在 74.xx 就會出國去
如果是 64.xx 就不會,可能是 cht 連 google 又面臨到瓶頸了
所以分流。(以上猜測)

網友們可以試試,用 8.8.8.8 這個來當 dns 或是國內任何一家 dns
還有 xp 系統,預設 dns client 服務會開啟,這會導致 dns cache
要關閉它,才會查到 load balance 的 dns 動態指定

我自家 trace 也是有兩種不同的結果,並非我一直都是走國外線

64.xx 的結果

| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| il-c6r2.router.hinet.net - 0 | 3 | 3 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 15 |
| il-c12r2.router.hinet.net - 0 | 3 | 3 | 16 | 21 | 31 | 31 |
| tp-crs12.router.hinet.net - 0 | 3 | 3 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 16 |
| r03-s2.tp.hinet.net - 0 | 3 | 3 | 15 | 20 | 31 | 31 |
| r01-s2.tp.hinet.net - 0 | 3 | 3 | 15 | 20 | 31 | 15 |
| 203.75.135.38 - 34 | 3 | 2 | 15 | 23 | 31 | 15 |
| 209.85.243.30 - 0 | 3 | 3 | 16 | 16 | 16 | 16 |
| 209.85.250.103 - 0 | 2 | 2 | 16 | 23 | 31 | 31 |
| 72.14.238.222 - 0 | 2 | 2 | 31 | 31 | 32 | 32 |
| 64.233.183.18 - 0 | 2 | 2 | 15 | 23 | 31 | 31 |
|________________________________________________|______|__


74.xx 的結果

| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
il-c6r1.router.hinet.net - 0 | 4 | 4 | 15 | 19 | 31 | 16 |
| il-c12r1.router.hinet.net - 0 | 4 | 4 | 16 | 27 | 31 | 16 |
| tp-crs11.router.hinet.net - 0 | 4 | 4 | 16 | 27 | 32 | 31 |
| r04-s2.tp.hinet.net - 0 | 4 | 4 | 15 | 15 | 16 | 16 |
| hc-c12r1.router.hinet.net - 0 | 4 | 4 | 15 | 35 | 63 | 63 |
| r02-pa.us.hinet.net - 0 | 4 | 4 | 156 | 382 | 1062 | 1062 |
| 12.116.52.5 - 25 | 4 | 3 | 157 | 167 | 172 | 157 |
| cr2.sffca.ip.att.net - 0 | 3 | 3 | 172 | 172 | 172 | 172 |
| ggr3.sffca.ip.att.net - 0 | 3 | 3 | 172 | 172 | 172 | 172 |
| att-gw.sanfran.level3.net - 0 | 3 | 3 | 172 | 177 | 187 | 172 |
| vlan89.csw3.SanJose1.Level3.net - 0 | 3 | 3 | 172 | 177 | 187 | 187 |
| ae-82-82.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net - 0 | 3 | 3 | 156 | 171 | 188 | 156 |
| ae-7.ebr1.Seattle1.Level3.net - 0 | 3 | 3 | 187 | 187 | 187 | 187 |
| ae-1-51.edge1.Seattle3.Level3.net - 0 | 3 | 3 | 188 | 193 | 203 | 188 |
| GOOGLE-INC.edge1.Seattle3.Level3.net - 0 | 3 | 3 | 172 | 203 | 250 | 250 |
| 209.85.249.34 - 0 | 3 | 3 | 157 | 177 | 203 | 157 |
| 216.239.43.213 - 0 | 3 | 3 | 156 | 166 | 172 | 172 |
| 209.85.250.86 - 0 | 3 | 3 | 156 | 156 | 156 | 156 |
| 209.85.243.21 - 0 | 3 | 3 | 156 | 176 | 218 | 156 |
| 72.14.233.130 - 0 | 3 | 3 | 156 | 161 | 172 | 156 |
| 74.125.153.19 - 0 | 3 | 3 | 172 | 177 | 188 | 172 |
|________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______|





1 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms 114-42-32-254.dynamic.hinet.net [114.42.32.254]

2 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms tp-e4-c76r2.router.hinet.net [168.95.101.134]
3 12 ms 12 ms 13 ms tp-e4-t64-2.router.hinet.net [211.22.36.182]
4 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms tp-crs12.router.hinet.net [220.128.2.170]
5 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms r03-s2.tp.hinet.net [220.128.4.45]
6 12 ms 12 ms 13 ms r01-s2.tp.hinet.net [220.128.3.249]
7 17 ms 14 ms 14 ms 203.75.135.38
8 13 ms 12 ms 14 ms 209.85.243.26
9 14 ms 29 ms 16 ms 209.85.250.103
10 20 ms 25 ms 18 ms 72.14.238.222
11 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms tz-in-f106.1e100.net [64.233.183.106]

我的看起來應該還是在台灣

hinet 10/2