華信與google

**darksnow** · 2010-09-17, 12:50 AM

作者：cos

沒錯，我也發現，它現在都走 209.85.243.xx 出去了 ... 有罵有差

我罵了快五個月了............................

不過看這新路徑跑到TYFO，看起來像是HINET桃園富國機房？
Google在台灣好像又是放在acer龍潭那邊，
不知道是不是直接拉過去了？

**RouterOS** · 2010-09-17, 12:57 AM

作者：darksnow

不過看這新路徑跑到TYFO，看起來像是HINET桃園富國機房？
Google在台灣好像又是放在acer龍潭那邊，
不知道是不是直接拉過去了？

龍潭Google雞房有跑中華也有跑其他家固網,
光纖直連內湖是方再連頭城海纜站.

**cos** · 2010-09-21, 05:04 PM

作者：cos

沒錯，我也發現，它現在都走 209.85.243.xx 出去了 ... 有罵有差

更正一下，我弄錯了，是這顆才對 211.22.226.5
209.85.243.xx 已到 google 了

剛查了一下。 hinet 還是和各大 isp 不一樣，hinet 連到google 是從 211.22.226.5
即使是 hinet web 站台提供的 traceroute 也是一樣經過這顆，而其他國內 isp 及學術網路則都從
72.14.216.x 或 72.14.196.x 猜想hinet 這個果然是新的solution 和其他早就連線 google 的路由不一樣

以下是各大 tracelog

1 u93-254.user.kbtelecom.net (203.133.93.254) 0.593 ms 0.484 ms 0.407 ms
2 TPNOC1-G65-CORE.IX.kbtelecom.net (203.133.2.252) 66.808 ms 1.854 ms 0.408 ms
3 TPNOC1-P76-10G3-1-C65.IX.kbtelecom.net (203.187.9.54) 0.486 ms 0.395 ms 0.410 ms
4 72.14.216.137 (72.14.216.137) 0.646 ms 0.690 ms 72.14.219.69 (72.14.219.69) 0.701 ms
5 209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 0.928 ms 209.85.243.30 (209.85.243.30) 1.573 ms 1.577 ms
6 209.85.250.103 (209.85.250.103) 1.674 ms 1.572 ms 1.583 ms
7 209.85.241.166 (209.85.241.166) 1.819 ms 13.897 ms 1.877 ms
8 tx-in-f83.1e100.net (72.14.203.83) 1.824 ms 2.012 ms 2.023 ms

1 TPDB-3516.hinet.net (210.65.161.22) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
2 TPDT-3012.hinet.net (220.128.2.146) 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
3 TYFO-3012.hinet.net (220.128.2.57) 4 msec 4 msec 0 msec
4 TYFO-3302.hinet.net (220.128.9.197) 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
5 211-22-226-5.HINET-IP.hinet.net (211.22.226.5) 4 msec 4 msec 0 msec
6 209.85.243.26 0 msec
209.85.243.30 4 msec
209.85.243.26 0 msec
7 209.85.243.21 4 msec
209.85.250.103 4 msec
209.85.243.21 4 msec
8 209.85.241.158 8 msec
209.85.241.154 4 msec 4 msec
9 googlemail.l.google.com (72.14.203.18) 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec

1 T6500-MSM (163.13.1.253) 0.851 ms 0.419 ms 0.628 ms
2 TKU-TANet (163.13.254.252) 0.996 ms 0.812 ms 0.681 ms
3 140.111.230.33 (140.111.230.33) 1.745 ms 1.236 ms 1.288 ms
4 202.169.174.50 (202.169.174.50) 1.416 ms 1.746 ms 1.384 ms
5 202.169.174.234 (202.169.174.234) 1.458 ms 1.662 ms 1.835 ms
6 72.14.196.229 (72.14.196.229) 2.501 ms 9.498 ms 2.237 ms
7 209.85.243.30 (209.85.243.30) 3.294 ms
209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 2.084 ms 2.079 ms
8 209.85.250.103 (209.85.250.103) 3.344 ms 3.948 ms
209.85.243.23 (209.85.243.23) 2.961 ms
9 209.85.241.158 (209.85.241.158) 15.203 ms 11.869 ms 3.367 ms
10 tx-in-f83.1e100.net (72.14.203.83) 3.315 ms 3.235 ms 3.442 ms

1 * * 139.175.55.2 (139.175.55.2) 0.372 ms
2 R56-190 (139.175.56.190) 0.334 ms 0.362 ms 0.331 ms
3 R59-194 (139.175.59.194) 0.491 ms 0.584 ms 0.572 ms
4 72.14.216.146 (72.14.216.146) 0.584 ms 0.491 ms h210-192-72-123 (192.72.123.210) 10.374 ms
5 209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 0.669 ms 209.85.243.30 (209.85.243.30) 1.547 ms 209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 0.569 ms
6 209.85.250.103 (209.85.250.103) 1.535 ms 1.591 ms 209.85.243.23 (209.85.243.23) 1.612 ms
7 72.14.233.130 (72.14.233.130) 2.920 ms 14.616 ms 1.640 ms
8 ty-in-f17.1e100.net (74.125.153.17) 1.671 ms 1.850 ms 1.691 ms

1 router (203.79.224.254) 0.441 ms 0.422 ms 0.413 ms 2 192.168.101.29 (192.168.101.29) 0.405 ms 0.525 ms 0.321 ms 3 211-76-96-116.ebix.net.tw (211.76.96.116) 0.366 ms 0.312 ms 0.320 ms 4 211-76-96-125.ebix.net.tw (211.76.96.125) 0.413 ms 0.387 ms 0.470 ms 5 72.14.196.13 (72.14.196.13) 0.597 ms 0.585 ms 0.690 ms 6 209.85.243.30 (209.85.243.30) 1.555 ms 1.608 ms 209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 0.667 ms 7 209.85.250.103 (209.85.250.103) 1.755 ms 1.804 ms 1.661 ms 8 72.14.233.130 (72.14.233.130) 9.940 ms 14.212 ms 1.690 ms 9 ty-in-f19.1e100.net (74.125.153.19) 1.709 ms 1.975 ms 1.871 ms

traceroute to 74.125.153.19 (74.125.153.19), 30 hops max, 140 byte packets
1 61-56-191-94.ubbn.net (61.56.191.94) 0.434 ms 0.646 ms 1.386 ms
2 61-56-191-113.ubbn.net (61.56.191.113) 0.565 ms 0.563 ms 1.312 ms
3 219-80-240-53.static.tfn.net.tw (219.80.240.53) 1.291 ms 1.277 ms 1.256 ms
4 60-199-17-253.static.tfn.net.tw (60.199.17.253) 1.233 ms 1.214 ms 2.220 ms
5 72.14.196.17 (72.14.196.17) 2.094 ms 1.550 ms 2.608 ms
6 209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 1.426 ms 209.85.243.30 (209.85.243.30) 2.557 ms 209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 1.400 ms
7 209.85.243.21 (209.85.243.21) 2.832 ms 209.85.243.23 (209.85.243.23) 10.771 ms 10.770 ms
8 72.14.233.126 (72.14.233.126) 2.740 ms 72.14.233.102 (72.14.233.102) 3.895 ms 2.704 ms
9 ty-in-f19.1e100.net (74.125.153.19) 2.365 ms 2.325 ms 2.285 ms

**cos** · 2010-09-29, 10:57 AM

今天忽然發現各大 ISP 解域名 mail.google.com 如果是到 72.xx 開頭的就爆ping 了

如果是解出 74.xx 就正常極快在 10ms 以內都是個位數的

苦主有 giga.net.tw 和 seednet 兩家發現有此情形

以下是擷取至上述兩家提供的 trace 工具

traceroute to mail.google.com (72.14.203.18) ...
1 u93-254.user.kbtelecom.net (203.133.93.254) 0.591 ms 0.487 ms 0.407 ms
2 TPNOC1-G65-CORE.IX.kbtelecom.net (203.133.2.252) 0.983 ms 0.391 ms 0.409 ms
3 TPNOC1-P76-10G3-1-C65.IX.kbtelecom.net (203.187.9.54) 0.353 ms 0.398 ms 0.409 ms
4 72.14.216.137 (72.14.216.137) 5.060 ms 0.542 ms 72.14.219.69 (72.14.219.69) 0.556 ms
5 209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 1.373 ms 0.693 ms 0.557 ms
6 209.85.255.216 (209.85.255.216) 31.032 ms 31.070 ms 30.195 ms
7 209.85.242.251 (209.85.242.251) 137.115 ms 129.681 ms 143.186 ms
8 216.239.43.220 (216.239.43.220) 139.745 ms 216.239.48.34 (216.239.48.34) 141.120 ms 132.025 ms
9 tx-in-f17.1e100.net (72.14.203.17) 129.920 ms 122.195 ms 131.144 ms
traceroute completed!

traceroute to googlemail.l.google.com (72.14.203.19), 25 hops max, 44 byte packets
1 139.175.55.2 (139.175.55.2) 0.610 ms 0.368 ms 0.340 ms
2 R57-37 (139.175.57.37) 12.747 ms 0.374 ms 0.334 ms
3 R59-202 (139.175.59.202) 0.496 ms 0.484 ms 0.471 ms
4 72.14.216.144 (72.14.216.144) 0.540 ms 0.555 ms 74.125.51.77 (74.125.51.77) 0.529 ms
5 209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 0.563 ms 6.609 ms 0.725 ms
6 209.85.255.216 (209.85.255.216) 32.350 ms 32.320 ms 31.418 ms
7 209.85.242.251 (209.85.242.251) 130.349 ms 137.168 ms 130.606 ms
8 216.239.43.220 (216.239.43.220) 133.375 ms 133.473 ms 216.239.48.34 (216.239.48.34) 137.117 ms
9 tx-in-f19.1e100.net (72.14.203.19) 133.201 ms 134.177 ms 134.478 ms

**darksnow** · 2010-09-29, 09:37 PM

用了幾個ISP網站提供測試的，包含學網，全都一樣。
看起來像是Google的問題？

1 140.111.56.254 (140.111.56.254) 0.712 ms 0.451 ms 0.383 ms
2 bb-MOE-C6K.TANet.edu.tw (140.111.230.254) 47.668 ms 23.246 ms 15.819 ms
3 bb-MOE-N.TANet.edu.tw (203.72.43.121) 13.339 ms 14.932 ms 37.618 ms
4 202.169.174.58 (202.169.174.58) 31.538 ms 27.056 ms 14.959 ms
5 202.169.174.234 (202.169.174.234) 18.690 ms 35.558 ms 7.734 ms
6 72.14.196.229 (72.14.196.229) 2.453 ms 1.937 ms 2.126 ms
7 209.85.243.30 (209.85.243.30) 5.790 ms 9.793 ms 21.356 ms
8 209.85.255.38 (209.85.255.38) 48.942 ms 41.451 ms 35.638 ms
9 209.85.249.36 (209.85.249.36) 132.983 ms 119.996 ms 128.512 ms
10 216.239.43.228 (216.239.43.228) 138.319 ms 134.710 ms 216.239.43.150 (216.239.43.150) 142.730 ms
11 216.239.48.139 (216.239.48.139) 157.563 ms 64.233.174.121 (64.233.174.121) 148.609 ms 64.233.174.123 (64.233.174.123) 124.655 ms
12 216.239.49.246 (216.239.49.246) 130.621 ms * 132.915 ms
13 tx-in-f99.1e100.net (72.14.203.99) 145.504 ms 156.031 ms 181.318 ms

1 router (203.79.224.254) 1.840 ms 0.428 ms 0.454 ms
2 192.168.101.29 (192.168.101.29) 0.431 ms 0.369 ms 0.278 ms
3 211-76-96-116.ebix.net.tw (211.76.96.116) 0.405 ms 0.474 ms 0.312 ms
4 211-76-96-125.ebix.net.tw (211.76.96.125) 0.397 ms 0.359 ms 0.381 ms
5 72.14.196.13 (72.14.196.13) 0.664 ms 0.655 ms 0.661 ms
6 209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 0.879 ms 0.697 ms 0.720 ms
7 209.85.255.216 (209.85.255.216) 39.744 ms 39.838 ms 39.638 ms
MPLS Label=332490 CoS=5 TTL=1 S=0
8 209.85.242.251 (209.85.242.251) 156.623 ms 129.234 ms 128.563 ms
MPLS Label=577864 CoS=5 TTL=1 S=0
9 209.85.250.144 (209.85.250.144) 130.704 ms 140.939 ms 122.572 ms
10 216.239.48.165 (216.239.48.165) 124.676 ms 216.239.48.167 (216.239.48.167) 124.748 ms 64.233.174.123 (64.233.174.123) 123.865 ms
11 *

Tracing the path to 72.14.203.99 on TCP port 80, 30 hops max
1 219.84.214.2 (219.84.214.2) 10.013 ms 9.311 ms 9.778 ms
2 72.14.196.33 (72.14.196.33) 9.697 ms 9.415 ms 9.855 ms
3 209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 9.748 ms 9.787 ms 48.529 ms
4 209.85.255.216 (209.85.255.216) 31.053 ms 35.033 ms 49.495 ms
5 209.85.242.251 (209.85.242.251) 128.419 ms 129.134 ms 119.088 ms
6 209.85.250.144 (209.85.250.144) 121.362 ms 121.342 ms 121.741 ms
7 64.233.174.131 (64.233.174.131) 123.542 ms 123.517 ms 123.537 ms
8 216.239.49.246 (216.239.49.246) 128.774 ms 123.035 ms 125.686 ms
9 * * *
10 * * *
11 tx-in-f99.1e100.net (72.14.203.99) [open] 123.959 ms 125.586 ms 124.064 ms

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to tx-in-f99.1e100.net (72.14.203.99)

1 TPDB-3516.hinet.net (210.65.161.22) 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
2 TPDT-3012.hinet.net (220.128.2.146) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
3 TYFO-3012.hinet.net (220.128.4.105) 0 msec 0 msec 4 msec
4 TYFO-3302.hinet.net (220.128.9.197) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
5 211-22-226-5.HINET-IP.hinet.net (211.22.226.5) 4 msec 4 msec 0 msec
6 209.85.243.30 4 msec 4 msec
209.85.243.26 0 msec
7 209.85.255.38 36 msec
209.85.255.216 36 msec
209.85.255.38 36 msec
8 209.85.249.36 136 msec 156 msec 136 msec
9 209.85.250.144 136 msec 144 msec
216.239.48.34 136 msec
10 64.233.174.121 136 msec
216.239.48.137 140 msec 140 msec
11 209.85.254.146 144 msec *
209.85.254.150 156 msec
12 tx-in-f99.1e100.net (72.14.203.99) 136 msec 136 msec 136 msec

**cos** · 2010-09-29, 09:54 PM

[QUOTE=darksnow;1096375]用了幾個ISP網站提供測試的，包含學網，全都一樣。
看起來像是Google的問題？

有可能。

它會 random 解出域名解出 72.xx 就變慢
解出 74.x 時就變快。我則是找個會一直解出 74.xx 的 dns 來加快我使用
google 的速度。雖然我並不了解出了什麼問題多試幾次，就會發現有變化
windows 2000 或 winxp 系統要把 dns client 的 service 關閉不使用本機的名稱快取服務，才不會每次解出域名都固定住。

1 139.175.55.2 (139.175.55.2) 0.416 ms 0.318 ms 0.400 ms
2 R57-37 (139.175.57.37) 0.341 ms 0.324 ms 0.332 ms
3 R59-202 (139.175.59.202) 22.106 ms 0.878 ms 0.627 ms
4 72.14.216.146 (72.14.216.146) 0.674 ms 0.690 ms h210-192-72-123 (192.72.123.210) 1.027 ms
5 209.85.243.30 (209.85.243.30) 11.588 ms 209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 1.690 ms 1.748 ms
6 209.85.243.23 (209.85.243.23) 2.263 ms 2.098 ms 209.85.250.103 (209.85.250.103) 7.876 ms
7 72.14.233.122 (72.14.233.122) 6.821 ms 72.14.233.130 (72.14.233.130) 7.233 ms 13.939 ms
8 ty-in-f83.1e100.net (74.125.153.83) 1.885 ms 2.276 ms 2.787 ms

1 router (203.79.224.254) 0.442 ms 0.421 ms 0.413 ms
2 192.168.101.29 (192.168.101.29) 0.304 ms 0.282 ms 0.274 ms
3 211-76-96-116.ebix.net.tw (211.76.96.116) 0.343 ms 0.317 ms 0.312 ms
4 211-76-96-253.ebix.net.tw (211.76.96.253) 0.448 ms 0.352 ms 0.397 ms
5 72.14.196.13 (72.14.196.13) 10.966 ms 0.738 ms 0.559 ms
6 209.85.243.26 (209.85.243.26) 0.870 ms 0.615 ms 0.667 ms
7 209.85.250.103 (209.85.250.103) 1.851 ms 1.680 ms 1.683 ms
8 72.14.233.130 (72.14.233.130) 1.751 ms 13.485 ms 1.702 ms
9 ty-in-f83.1e100.net (74.125.153.83) 1.957 ms 1.732 ms 2.000 ms