【討論】Google最近是不是在台灣有設伺服器？

最近這幾天我才發現Ping Google的Ping值變低了，白天維持在38~41ms，晚上會到100～200ms

ping [url]www.google.com.tw[/url]

Pinging [url]www.l.google.com[/url] [72.14.235.147] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 72.14.235.147: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=245
Reply from 72.14.235.147: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=246
Reply from 72.14.235.147: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=245
Reply from 72.14.235.147: bytes=32 time=39ms TTL=246

Ping statistics for 72.14.235.147:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 39ms, Maximum = 40ms, Average = 39ms

tracert [url]www.google.com.tw[/url]

Tracing route to [url]www.l.google.com[/url] [72.14.235.147]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 61-59-51-1.adsl.static.seed.net.tw [61.59.51.1]

2 38 ms 39 ms 40 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw [139.175.235.67]
3 * 39 ms 39 ms R57-94.seed.net.tw [139.175.57.94]
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 39 ms 40 ms 45 ms R56-138.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.138]
6 45 ms 39 ms 47 ms R58-42.seed.net.tw [139.175.58.42]
7 39 ms 38 ms 40 ms h210-192-72-123.seed.net.tw [192.72.123.210]
8 42 ms 42 ms 65 ms 72.14.232.167
9 60 ms 59 ms 64 ms 72.14.232.156
10 40 ms 48 ms 40 ms tw-in-f147.google.com [72.14.235.147]

Trace complete.

SeedNet居然跟Google直連，之前的ping值都始終維持在69～70ms，之前都是繞到日本的JPIX，因為Google可能有在日本設有機房，而JPIX網頁上的成員名單的確有Google，去年的新聞寫說Google選中台灣當作全球備援基地，是擺在宏碁的eDC機房，而宏碁有兩個機房，一個是內湖機房，一個是龍潭機房，我昨天有寫信問Seednet問說Google是不是將主機擺在台灣，SeedNet回答說是在北美洲，他們最近有優化Google網站的路由，我建議說如果真的擺在台灣的話趕快用幾千M甚至10Gbps的頻寬與Google直連吧。

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google本身在台灣是有機器的
就放在「四面八方」公司裡面

伺服器就放在龍潭宏碁 那裡,再透過固網[URL="e-words.cn/w/Dark20fiber.html"][COLOR="Red"]Darkfiber[/COLOR][/URL]連回台北內湖有住好多家海纜的[URL="www.chief.com.tw"][COLOR="Red"]那一棟[/COLOR][/URL],然後再連到頭城賣礦泉水斜對面的那一間[URL="www.flagtelecom.com"][COLOR="Red"]鐵皮屋[/COLOR][/URL].

Tracing route to [url]www.l.google.com[/url] [64.233.189.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 29 ms 27 ms 35 ms 122-126-0-254.dynamic.hinet.net [122.126.0.254]

3 28 ms 27 ms 26 ms h50.s104.ts.hinet.net [168.95.104.50]
4 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms 220-128-8-18.HINET-IP.hinet.net [220.128.8.18]
5 28 ms 27 ms 28 ms tp-s2-c12r11.router.hinet.net [220.128.1.30]
6 27 ms 28 ms 28 ms tp-s2-c12r5.router.hinet.net [220.128.1.101]
7 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms tp-s2-jpr1.router.hinet.net [211.75.91.185]
8 27 ms 28 ms 27 ms tp-s2-c12r35.router.hinet.net [210.65.254.171]
9 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms 211.22.33.189
10 46 ms 46 ms 45 ms GoogleInc.gw2.hkg3.asianetcom.net [202.147.17.15
8]
11 46 ms 45 ms 46 ms hk-in-f104.google.com [64.233.189.104]

Trace complete.


這是用朋友家的華電2M/256浮動IP測的，怎麼好像跑到香港去~
不過GOOGLE如果來台設站點，相信沒有一家不會跟他沒互連的。
開GMAIL應該也會更快一點。因為用華電開GMAIL覺得不是很快。

測GMAIL：
Tracing route to googlemail.l.google.com [216.239.63.19]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 28 ms 28 ms 27 ms 122-126-0-254.dynamic.hinet.net [122.126.0.254]

3 27 ms 27 ms 41 ms h50.s104.ts.hinet.net [168.95.104.50]
4 26 ms 27 ms 28 ms 220-128-8-18.HINET-IP.hinet.net [220.128.8.18]
5 27 ms 28 ms 30 ms tp-s2-c12r11.router.hinet.net [220.128.1.70]
6 27 ms 27 ms 28 ms tp-s2-c12r5.router.hinet.net [220.128.1.89]
7 27 ms 27 ms 28 ms tp-s2-l108-81.router.hinet.net [211.72.108.81]
8 247 ms 257 ms 259 ms pa-c12r12.USA-PAIX.router.hinet.net [211.72.108.
165]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 247 ms 249 ms 251 ms 209.85.130.6
11 270 ms 252 ms 250 ms 72.14.233.123
12 258 ms 260 ms 257 ms 72.14.233.121
13 258 ms 276 ms 275 ms 216.239.48.126
14 230 ms 232 ms 236 ms bp-in-f19.google.com [216.239.63.19]

Trace complete.

希望其他ISP的用戶也能幫忙測試。

我也來測測.....
Hinet 1M/64K 非固定制.

Tracing route to [url]www.l.google.com[/url] [64.233.189.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 61-231-120-254.dynamic.hinet.net [61.231.120.254]
3 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms ty-fo-c76r1.router.hinet.net [168.95.94.98]
4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms ty-fo-c12r2.router.hinet.net [211.22.39.178]
5 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms tp-s2-c12r12.router.hinet.net [220.128.2.30]
6 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms tp-s2-c12r5.router.hinet.net [220.128.2.89]
7 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms tp-s2-jpr1.router.hinet.net [211.75.91.185]
8 11 ms 10 ms 11 ms tp-s2-c12r35.router.hinet.net [210.65.254.139]
9 29 ms 27 ms 27 ms 211.22.33.189
10 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms GoogleInc.gw2.hkg3.asianetcom.net [202.147.17.158]
11 28 ms 29 ms 28 ms hk-in-f104.google.com [64.233.189.104]

Trace complete.

有趣的路由....
我的測試應該沒有繞道香港, 不然不會有28ms這樣低的回應時間.

我也來測試一下
台灣固網CABLE 2M/384,路由跟SEEDNET很像
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert [url]www.google.com.tw[/url]

Tracing route to [url]www.l.google.com[/url] [72.14.235.147]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 7 ms 8 ms 8 ms 192.168.1.1
2 8 ms 7 ms 12 ms 61-56-191-113.ubbn.net [61.56.191.113]
3 20 ms 10 ms 10 ms 61-31-252-1.static.tfn.net.tw [61.31.252.1]
4 10 ms 12 ms 9 ms 60-199-6-33.static.tfn.net.tw [60.199.6.33]
5 9 ms 11 ms 10 ms 60-199-6-10.static.tfn.net.tw [60.199.6.10]
6 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms 72.14.196.17
7 10 ms 11 ms 13 ms 72.14.232.167
8 24 ms 10 ms 25 ms 72.14.232.217
9 13 ms 17 ms 10 ms tw-in-f147.google.com [72.14.235.147]

Trace complete.

看來Google真的把主機擺在宏碁的龍潭機房裡，本來我以為只是要擺後端的儲存設備，以供不時之需，沒想到是前端的伺服器也擺在台灣。:)

[QUOTE=wulala;949823]我也來測測.....
Hinet 1M/64K 非固定制.

有趣的路由....
我的測試應該沒有繞道香港, 不然不會有28ms這樣低的回應時間.[/QUOTE]

看起來是走同樣的點到GOOGLE。
不過你的回應時間怎麼比我的非固定制2M/256還低...:eye:

[CODE]
Tracing route to www.l.google.com [72.14.235.147]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 57 ms 56 ms 45 ms adsl-61-56-255-*.NNH.dynamic.sparqnet.net
[61.56.255.*]
2 40 ms 39 ms 40 ms 61.66.238.250
3 39 ms 39 ms 39 ms 211.78.129.41
4 40 ms 40 ms 39 ms 211.78.150.199
5 44 ms 43 ms 46 ms 72.14.196.21
6 45 ms 48 ms 47 ms 72.14.232.167
7 49 ms 46 ms 44 ms 72.14.232.156
8 48 ms 49 ms 46 ms tw-in-f147.google.com [72.14.235.147][/CODE]

速博好像很久以前就直連勒....

Giga 8M/640 固定IP
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert [url]www.google.com.tw[/url]

Tracing route to [url]www.l.google.com[/url] [72.14.235.147]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 69 ms 67 ms 66 ms 219-68-24-254.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw [219.68.24.254]
2 42 ms 41 ms 42 ms TPNOC1-C65-G4-1-ERX01.IX.giga.net.tw [203.187.3.85]
3 57 ms 67 ms 76 ms TPNOC3-P76-G8-13-TPNOC1.IX.giga.net.tw [203.187.9.10]
4 41 ms 41 ms 41 ms 72.14.196.9
5 79 ms 44 ms 42 ms 72.14.232.167
6 44 ms 45 ms 64 ms 72.14.232.156
7 73 ms 74 ms 68 ms tw-in-f147.google.com [72.14.235.147]

Trace complete.

SeedNet 8M/640 + DHCP

Tracing route to [url]www.l.google.com[/url] [72.14.235.104]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 43 ms 43 ms 42 ms 221-169-16-1.adsl.static.seed.net.tw [221.169.16.1]
3 59 ms 106 ms 43 ms sj235-130.dialup.seed.net.tw [139.175.235.130]
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 244 ms * * h129-192-72-110.seed.net.tw [192.72.110.129]
6 47 ms 47 ms 58 ms R56-138.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.138]
7 78 ms 57 ms 45 ms R58-42.seed.net.tw [139.175.58.42]
8 131 ms 69 ms 71 ms h210-192-72-123.seed.net.tw [192.72.123.210]
9 51 ms 48 ms 86 ms 72.14.232.167
10 74 ms 130 ms 46 ms 72.14.232.156
11 45 ms 44 ms 184 ms tw-in-f104.google.com [72.14.235.104]


Trace complete.

話說，速博趕快來我家舖線阿....
我好想用 FTTB

hinet vdsl 10m/2m 固定IP 也是連去香港說

2 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms h98.s74.ts.hinet.net [168.95.74.98]
3 13 ms 19 ms 14 ms tp-pc1-c12r1.router.hinet.net [203.75.232.194]
4 17 ms 18 ms 14 ms tp-s2-c12r1.router.hinet.net [203.75.232.2]
5 13 ms 12 ms 14 ms tp-s2-c12r12.router.hinet.net [220.128.2.110]
6 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms tp-s2-c12r6.router.hinet.net [220.128.2.101]
7 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms tp-s2-jpr1.router.hinet.net [211.75.91.197]
8 14 ms 14 ms 15 ms tp-s2-c12r35.router.hinet.net [210.65.254.27]
9 76 ms 32 ms 32 ms tp-s2-c12r35.router.hinet.net [211.22.33.101]
10 32 ms 32 ms 33 ms GoogleInc.gw2.hkg3.asianetcom.net [202.147.17.15
8]
11 33 ms 32 ms 33 ms hk-in-f104.google.com [64.233.189.104]

呵呵 咪 ┌|∵|┘

sparq 1m/64
好像也不全然都很順:(

Tracing route to [url]www.google.com[/url] [66.102.9.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 5 ms 2 ms 2 ms 192.168.10.1
2 76 ms 72 ms 71 ms adsl-61-56-255-62.NNH.dynamic.sparqnet.net [
6.255.62]
3 75 ms 71 ms 65 ms 61.66.238.250
4 69 ms 68 ms 65 ms 211.78.150.101
5 69 ms 65 ms 68 ms 211.78.150.71
6 72 ms 67 ms 66 ms 72.14.196.21
7 101 ms 99 ms 100 ms 72.14.236.236
8 101 ms 97 ms 115 ms 66.249.95.197
9 188 ms 185 ms 183 ms 209.85.248.131
10 189 ms 243 ms 180 ms 72.14.233.57
11 230 ms 250 ms 251 ms 216.239.46.226
12 254 ms 289 ms 246 ms 216.239.46.15
13 325 ms 317 ms 332 ms 216.239.46.113
14 332 ms 331 ms 331 ms 66.249.95.107
15 429 ms 332 ms 332 ms 72.14.232.233
16 337 ms 333 ms 329 ms 72.14.232.239
17 342 ms 330 ms 338 ms 64.233.174.18
18 335 ms 329 ms 331 ms lm-in-f104.google.com [66.102.9.104]

Trace complete.

[QUOTE=sayhi2000;949809]Tracing route to [url]www.l.google.com[/url] [64.233.189.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 29 ms 27 ms 35 ms 122-126-0-254.dynamic.hinet.net [122.126.0.254]

3 28 ms 27 ms 26 ms h50.s104.ts.hinet.net [168.95.104.50]
4 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms 220-128-8-18.HINET-IP.hinet.net [220.128.8.18]
5 28 ms 27 ms 28 ms tp-s2-c12r11.router.hinet.net [220.128.1.30]
6 27 ms 28 ms 28 ms tp-s2-c12r5.router.hinet.net [220.128.1.101]
7 28 ms 28 ms 28 ms tp-s2-jpr1.router.hinet.net [211.75.91.185]
8 27 ms 28 ms 27 ms tp-s2-c12r35.router.hinet.net [210.65.254.171]
9 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms 211.22.33.189
10 46 ms 46 ms 45 ms GoogleInc.gw2.hkg3.asianetcom.net [202.147.17.15
8]
11 46 ms 45 ms 46 ms hk-in-f104.google.com [64.233.189.104]

Trace complete.


這是用朋友家的華電2M/256浮動IP測的，怎麼好像跑到香港去~
不過GOOGLE如果來台設站點，相信沒有一家不會跟他沒互連的。

[/QUOTE]

上面是二月初測的！
剛回到家在用浮動固定IP 8M 測試。

發現HINET的已經連回台灣~
不過也沒直接對連。
同樣是連由日本，在繞道連回台灣。
而且這樣的繞法雖已連回台灣，但PING直卻比到香港時還高....


D:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert [url]www.google.com[/url]

Tracing route to [url]www.l.google.com[/url] [72.14.235.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms 218-168-112-254.dynamic.hinet.net [218.168.112.2
54]
3 19 ms 19 ms 19 ms ty-fo-c6r5.router.hinet.net [168.95.96.26]
4 20 ms 21 ms 19 ms ty-fo-c12r2.router.hinet.net [211.22.39.178]
5 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms tp-s2-c12r12.router.hinet.net [220.128.2.30]
6 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms tp-s2-c12r5.router.hinet.net [220.128.2.97]
7 23 ms 23 ms 22 ms tp-s2-jpr1.router.hinet.net [211.75.91.185]
8 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms tp-s2-c12r35.router.hinet.net [210.65.254.27]
9 38 ms 39 ms 38 ms tp-s2-c12r35.router.hinet.net [211.22.33.101]
10 38 ms 39 ms 39 ms GoogleInc.gw2.hkg3.asianetcom.net [202.147.17.15
8]
11 59 ms 59 ms 59 ms 66.249.95.198
12 59 ms 58 ms 61 ms 72.14.232.162
13 59 ms 60 ms 59 ms 72.14.232.154
14 60 ms 60 ms 71 ms 72.14.232.217
15 62 ms 62 ms 70 ms 72.14.232.221
16 62 ms 62 ms 61 ms tw-in-f104.google.com [72.14.235.104]

[QUOTE]Tracing route to [url]www.l.google.com[/url] [72.14.235.104]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 42 ms 41 ms 41 ms 218-171-208-254.dynamic.hinet.net [218.171.208.254]

2 40 ms 40 ms 39 ms kh-c6r6.router.hinet.net [168.95.59.26]

3 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms 220-128-25-146.HINET-IP.hinet.net [220.128.25.146]

4 47 ms 47 ms 48 ms tp-s2-c12r12.router.hinet.net [220.128.2.14]

5 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms tp-s2-c12r5.router.hinet.net [220.128.2.97]

6 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms tp-s2-jpr1.router.hinet.net [211.75.91.185]

7 47 ms 48 ms 47 ms tp-s2-c12r35.router.hinet.net [210.65.254.171]

8 65 ms 66 ms 66 ms 211.22.33.189

9 66 ms 66 ms 66 ms GoogleInc.gw2.hkg3.asianetcom.net [202.147.17.158]

10 86 ms 85 ms 85 ms 66.249.95.198

11 85 ms 85 ms 85 ms 72.14.232.162

12 86 ms 85 ms 86 ms 72.14.232.160

13 86 ms 89 ms 92 ms 72.14.232.221

14 86 ms 86 ms 91 ms 72.14.232.221

15 87 ms 86 ms 86 ms tw-in-f104.google.com [72.14.235.104]



Trace complete.[/QUOTE]
hinet 8m/640 非固定制:(

應該沒繞道日本....
看回應時間就知道, 繞道日本再回來不可能只有10 ms, 香港也是...
只是和Google合作的這家網路公司Asia Netcom是香港的公司,
Hinet連往Google介接的電路是經過它在台灣的GoogleInc.gw2.hkg3.asianetcom.net [202.147.17.158]這台主機處理.
至於測試的回應時間比過去高, 主要是在GoogleInc.gw2.hkg3.asianetcom.net [202.147.17.158]之後,
到Google之間的封包處理時間增加了(多了幾個節點).
以下是用Hinet 1M/64K非固定制ADSL所測得的路由.
Tracing route to [url]www.l.google.com[/url] [72.14.235.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 11 ms 11 ms 13 ms 61-231-120-254.dynamic.hinet.net [61.231.120.254]
3 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms ty-fo-c76r1.router.hinet.net [168.95.94.98]
4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms ty-fo-c12r1.router.hinet.net [211.22.39.50]
5 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms tp-s2-c12r11.router.hinet.net [220.128.1.30]
6 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms tp-s2-c12r6.router.hinet.net [220.128.1.85]
7 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms tp-s2-jpr1.router.hinet.net [211.75.91.197]
8 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms tp-s2-c12r35.router.hinet.net [210.65.254.139]
9 29 ms 28 ms 28 ms tp-s2-c12r35.router.hinet.net [211.22.33.101]
10 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms GoogleInc.gw2.hkg3.asianetcom.net [202.147.17.158]
11 51 ms 51 ms 51 ms 66.249.95.198
12 51 ms 51 ms 51 ms 72.14.232.162
13 49 ms 51 ms 51 ms 72.14.232.167
14 52 ms 50 ms 57 ms 72.14.232.217
15 50 ms 63 ms 51 ms 72.14.232.221
16 50 ms 51 ms 51 ms tw-in-f104.google.com [72.14.235.104]

Trace complete.

怎麼看都覺得1M/64非固定制，測出來的數據都優於8M....
該不會12M也這樣吧...:|||:

HiNet 12M 固3 同樓主的tracert 數，也是連線到香港。

基本上都沒出國...
不管是連到tw-in-f104.google.com [72.14.235.104] 或是
hk-in-f104.google.com [64.233.189.104], 主機都還是在國內.
以我測試香港地區Hinet有直連電路的大站, ping都在60～65ms之間,
所以google的回應時間怎麼看都不像有出國的時間.

[QUOTE=sayhi2000;953815]怎麼看都覺得1M/64非固定制，測出來的數據都優於8M....
該不會12M也這樣吧...:|||:[/QUOTE]

扣掉DSLAM(本地)的回應時間, 其實都是一樣的.
ADSL在DSLAM到用戶這段的回應時間從10ms～70ms都有可能,
把這段扣掉, 就一樣了.

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms 125-225-160-254.dynamic.hinet.net [125.225.160.2
54]
3 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms h122.s101.ts.hinet.net [168.95.101.122]
4 49 ms 30 ms 31 ms tp-e4-c12r2.router.hinet.net [211.22.36.182]
5 47 ms 31 ms 30 ms tp-s2-c12r2.router.hinet.net [210.65.200.130]
6 71 ms 31 ms 30 ms tp-s2-c12r11.router.hinet.net [220.128.1.110]
7 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms tp-s2-c12r5.router.hinet.net [220.128.1.89]
8 83 ms * 31 ms tp-s2-jpr1.router.hinet.net [211.75.91.185]
9 31 ms 30 ms 31 ms tp-s2-c12r35.router.hinet.net [210.65.254.11]
10 48 ms 49 ms 109 ms 211.22.33.189
11 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms GoogleInc.gw2.hkg3.asianetcom.net [202.147.17.15
8]
12 69 ms 69 ms 70 ms 66.249.95.198
13 68 ms 177 ms 69 ms 72.14.232.166
14 70 ms 69 ms 82 ms 72.14.232.154
15 79 ms 78 ms 70 ms 72.14.232.217
16 78 ms 70 ms 71 ms tw-in-f147.google.com [72.14.235.147]

Trace complete.
連國外果然還是很慢XD