最近買了大通DTV-6200數位機上盒。

　　由於我家住的是大樓，而且也很少在看第四台，加上之前買的傳統天線就算放在頂樓也收訊不佳（被大樓擋住），所以買數位機上盒試試看。
　　這個型號內附室內天線，經過測試之後，收訊強度和品質大約在25-45起跳，有些頻道像中視幾乎收不到，看說明書上寫著強度和品質至少分別要35和40以上才達到比較好的收訊效果，最後死馬當活馬醫，直接把訊號來源改為傳統天線，接完之後發現強度和品質都在70以上，我稍微翻了一下文章，數位的室外天線要用UHF的形式，也許是當初剛好買對吧。
　　其實目前使用的傳統天線也已經斷了兩支，這個天線已經是第二個了（颱風害的），既然如此殘破不堪的天線接數位機上盒都有不錯的表現，我想就繼續使用吧。
　　以上是心得分享。

小弟的數位電視是用圓剛的PCCARD產品.
試過台中市很多地方, 最多就是12台. 中視也常常收訊不良.

基本上, 花個1千多塊從此擺脫群x有線的保護費, 感覺還不錯.
當然小弟的需求也比較低啦, 有兩家以上新聞台, 財經台加上王建民即可. :)

話說小弟最近也在研究 DVB-T 說~
還在考慮要用 黑熊機 或 Panasonic 數位機上盒，
還是直接買隻插 USB 的用電腦看就好了？

不過，看來看去，似乎還是不能擺脫第四台啊！

小弟之前家裡也是買了機上盒

不過是KOLIN 的，型號不明

訊號方面，確實是弱了點，尤其遇到下雨天或者人家騎機車過去

通常上面都會顯示收不到訊號，也有加天線，不過效果不彰

中視無論如何，都是斷斷續續的訊號

不知道是廠牌問題還是所居住的地方太鄉下了，還一直給我斷斷續續:|||:

不知道換個廠牌會比較好，還是其他問題

不知道各位老兄有用過KOLIN 的機上盒嗎？

感覺不太好用:(

琥珀還是等到 2010 年才升級好了。

下雨天時會雨衰.
不過不知道是否您居住的地方本身訊號就不良.
據所知大台北地區的訊號都是從陽明山區的竹子湖發射的.

[QUOTE=hiyawu]小弟之前家裡也是買了機上盒

不過是KOLIN 的，型號不明

訊號方面，確實是弱了點，尤其遇到下雨天或者人家騎機車過去

通常上面都會顯示收不到訊號，也有加天線，不過效果不彰

中視無論如何，都是斷斷續續的訊號

不知道是廠牌問題還是所居住的地方太鄉下了，還一直給我斷斷續續:|||:

不知道換個廠牌會比較好，還是其他問題

不知道各位老兄有用過KOLIN 的機上盒嗎？

感覺不太好用:([/QUOTE]

我在台中 , 買普騰第一代的

換了三次Firmware才收到公視

全部的信號台15台都收的到 !!

^^原來還是要更新的啦 !!

有裝室外天線，後來訊號非常穩定，下大雨也有70以上，
我覺得應該沒問題了。

數位頻道的畫面品質還不錯，跟以前差太多了。

[QUOTE=琥珀]琥珀還是等到 2010 年才升級好了。[/QUOTE]
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想用數位盒的，個人推薦大通，原本我是用某一廠牌的，訊號常常收不到(是全部都收不到)，我都一直懷疑是訊號太弱，不過直到我拿到光華請店家試機也收不到時，我才慢慢了解可能是產品不好，後來送修回來一段時間又復發之後，我就乾脆去買了大通的機子(這該感謝我老家那邊已經先用大通的數位盒，收訊正常)，回來裝上去之後就用到現在了，現在我再也不會懷疑是訊號的問題了(為了這個我還去買了室外型天線)。

還有，給頂樓的樓主，數位訊號對於方向性極端敏感，你必須要 " 微..微..微調"(不要以為我口吃，真的要"一點" "一點"地調)，才可以調到最好的訊號。

看了一下大通的網站...不知道還有沒有在修改...
因為我住彰化市...所以只好把天線對準八卦山脈...

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聽說 黑熊機 收訊及品質最強~

最近才開始建立起 EPG 電子節目的規格出來，
不少機上盒都因較早出產，無法對應；不然就是內建中文字數無法對應產生亂碼~
猜想是為了省硬體成本，而採用嵌入式系統一個一個造字；
不然用了unicode或Big-5編碼，光放OS的記憶體一下就得用掉至少10MB
產品也是一直在更新韌體補丁，真是麻煩~

最後這台發現畫質會定格,發現訊號品質都是紅色的大概20幾 訊號強度40幾

原本是以為原本UA-2天線的問題(線材接點生鏽)

後來換了UA-24發現情況根本沒改變

於是只好拿另外一台電視盒,看是天線還是機上盒的問題

拿的是GOGOTV來接看看

結果訊號強度也是40幾

不過訊號品質都90以上

因此今天拿去大通送修了~~

算一算差不多四年~~

現在就等維修結果了~~=w=

[QUOTE=markcoke;1093172]snipped....
結果訊號強度也是40幾

不過訊號品質都90以上

因此今天拿去大通送修了~~

算一算差不多四年~~

現在就等維修結果了~~=w=[/QUOTE]

鵝很久以前受鄰居之托看他家用了3-4年的DTV-1000(型號不太確定,好像是2002-2003年間買的),症狀也是畫面LAG/聲音爆音,拆機一看是爆了幾顆電容(印象中是SoC/Tuner旁那3-4顆),幫他換完又過了好幾年,到目前為止還正常使用中就是了:sleep::sleep:....

DTV好用嗎..好像會受氣候影響吧..我是都沒裝啦..

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[QUOTE=wangcm;1093187]鵝很久以前受鄰居之托看他家用了3-4年的DTV-1000(型號不太確定,好像是2002-2003年間買的),症狀也是畫面LAG/聲音爆音,拆機一看是爆了幾顆電容(印象中是SoC/Tuner旁那3-4顆),幫他換完又過了好幾年,到目前為止還正常使用中就是了:sleep::sleep:....[/QUOTE]


感謝閣下讓我充滿希望~~
因為在這個階段
並不想要再買一個新的數位接收盒

打算等
這個傳統映像管的電視壽終正寢
再一起畫液晶電視
反正現在大部分都內建數位接收了~~

[QUOTE=fannyfanny24;1093188]DTV好用嗎..好像會受氣候影響吧..我是都沒裝啦..

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還不錯用吧~~
數位接收比傳統的天線接收穩定多了~~
反而現在暫時用數位天線直接接電視看三台
畫面好多雜訊~~
而且風一吹 雷一打
就馬上訊號干擾
真不習慣

[QUOTE=琥珀;913951]琥珀還是等到 2010 年才升級好了。[/QUOTE]

話說…升級了沒？

[QUOTE=lenbo;1093277]話說…升級了沒？[/QUOTE]

也許還沒吧
等了這麼多年 只多了個HiHD

還是真的因為HiHD去衝了一台？

[QUOTE=markcoke;1093268]感謝閣下讓我充滿希望~~
因為在這個階段
並不想要再買一個新的數位接收盒

打算等
這個傳統映像管的電視壽終正寢
再一起畫液晶電視
反正現在大部分都內建數位接收了~~[/QUOTE]

其實在低價化當道的年代,過保的產品送修常常會讓user吐血,像這年頭P牌只支援SDTV的STB新品市價只要NT$16xx(某些白牌機更只要NT$1000左右:sleep:),但過保的機器一送修包括工時/運輸費用甚至金流所衍生的成本一定會轉嫁給user(零組件成本佔的比例反倒很低,像鵝幫鄰居換那幾顆電容的物料成本可能不到NT$10,實際上也沒收$$就是了:p),考慮到前面那堆雜七雜八的費用,原廠報NT$500其實是稀鬆平常的事,但user看到新品的價錢之後可能就要跳腳了(不過考量到環保的因素,修舊機的確是比較好的做法:sleep::sleep:)....

[QUOTE=wangcm;1093303]其實在低價化當道的年代,過保的產品送修常常會讓user吐血,像這年頭P牌只支援SDTV的STB新品市價只要NT$16xx(某些白牌機更只要NT$1000左右:sleep:),但過保的機器一送修包括工時/運輸費用甚至金流所衍生的成本一定會轉嫁給user(零組件成本佔的比例反倒很低,像鵝幫鄰居換那幾顆電容的物料成本可能不到NT$10,實際上也沒收$$就是了:p),考慮到前面那堆雜七雜八的費用,原廠報NT$500其實是稀鬆平常的事,但user看到新品的價錢之後可能就要跳腳了(不過考量到環保的因素,修舊機的確是比較好的做法:sleep::sleep:)....[/QUOTE]


剛剛客服打電話來
說機器是機板壞掉 無法開機 換機板的話要850NT
(跟我送過去所說的症狀不一樣)

建議我以舊機折抵換新機 DTV-6700 或 DTV-2100M 折購價 1450NT
他是比較建議我 換DTV-6700

我跟他回覆 我再考慮看看

結果過一會打電話到客服後
"對不起 現在是下班時間"

整個很囧...........................................................

[QUOTE=markcoke;1093325]剛剛客服打電話來
說機器是機板壞掉 無法開機 換機板的話要850NT
(跟我送過去所說的症狀不一樣)

建議我以舊機折抵換新機 DTV-6700 或 DTV-2100M 折購價 1450NT
他是比較建議我 換DTV-6700[/quote]

如果是免費換DTV-6700新機的話那當然換啊(BTW,用了4年應該已經過保的機器還能免費換新機給您,真不是普通佛心來的:D),不過鵝查了一下這兩台機器在網路上的新品價其實是差不多的,為啥後者還得貼NT$1450啊(而且後者一樣不支援HDTV就是了:|||::|||:)....

[QUOTE=wangcm;1093327]如果是免費換DTV-6700新機的話那當然換啊(BTW,用了4年應該已經過保的機器還能免費換新機給您,真不是普通佛心來的:D),不過鵝查了一下這兩台機器在網路上的新品價其實是差不多的,為啥後者還得貼NT$1450啊(而且後者一樣不支援HDTV就是了:|||::|||:)....[/QUOTE]


如果照這樣說來~~
是否直接過去把舊的機子拿回來~~
然後另外購買有支援Hi-HD功能的機上盒會比較好呢?
剛看了維修單~~
檢測費要收200.............

看來也是要到現場才知道有什麼折衷的方法~~

[QUOTE=wangcm;1093187]鵝很久以前受鄰居之托看他家用了3-4年的DTV-1000(型號不太確定,好像是2002-2003年間買的),症狀也是畫面LAG/聲音爆音,拆機一看是爆了幾顆電容(印象中是SoC/Tuner旁那3-4顆),幫他換完又過了好幾年,到目前為止還正常使用中就是了:sleep::sleep:....[/QUOTE]

鵝大說的應該是2004年4月前後生產的大通DTV-1000@這款STB吧!
我有兩台, 都是它的電源模組的濾波電容爆漿(原廠的16V或25V耐壓不足).

至於樓主的情況, 有可能是STB的電容爆漿, 但也有可能是同軸纜線老化了.

[QUOTE=markcoke;1093325]剛剛客服打電話來
說機器是機板壞掉 無法開機 換機板的話要850NT
(跟我送過去所說的症狀不一樣)

建議我以舊機折抵換新機 DTV-6700 或 DTV-2100M 折購價 1450NT
他是比較建議我 換DTV-6700
[/QUOTE]

乾脆放棄，改衝一台 兆赫ZP-600T 現在大概才 $3800 左右
能接區網看WIN網芳內的影片，又可以看 HiHD 及 DVB-T 還能錄~

連我都在考慮要不要衝一台給我媽看 台視數位台 說…
因為老媽喜歡看週六晚間台視胡瓜主持的歌唱節目，還有超偶；
不過，CATV 的訊號不曉得為什麼就是超爛的！
雜訊很大，會是因為 BB寬頻 的問題嗎？

[QUOTE=markcoke;1093325]剛剛客服打電話來
說機器是機板壞掉 無法開機 換機板的話要850NT
(跟我送過去所說的症狀不一樣)

建議我以舊機折抵換新機 DTV-6700 或 DTV-2100M 折購價 1450NT
他是比較建議我 換DTV-6700

我跟他回覆 我再考慮看看

結果過一會打電話到客服後
"對不起 現在是下班時間"

整個很囧...........................................................[/QUOTE]

問看看能不能折價換成HDR-6200, 這台可收看HiHD又能錄影.
不過換購價格不能超過3000元, 否則建議到網拍找BenQ送的那台DT-090T,
BenQ的DT-090T和大通HDR-6200都是揚興代工的, 兩者功能大同小異,
但是DT-090T在網拍常有2500元甚至2000元的超低價.
七月份BenQ42吋液晶的促銷又是送這台, 所以八月又會有不少人放上網拍.

[QUOTE=lenbo;1093340]乾脆放棄，改衝一台 兆赫ZP-600T 現在大概才 $3800 左右
能接區網看WIN網芳內的影片，又可以看 HiHD 及 DVB-T 還能錄~

連我都在考慮要不要衝一台給我媽看 台視數位台 說…
因為老媽喜歡看週六晚間台視胡瓜主持的歌唱節目，還有超偶；
不過，CATV 的訊號不曉得為什麼就是超爛的！
雜訊很大，會是因為 BB寬頻 的問題嗎？[/QUOTE]

如果要給長輩用的, 不建議買兆赫ZP-600T, 因為它的開機有點複雜.
而且若只要錄影不需下載及播放網路影片或RMVB等功能,
可以考慮買大通的HDR-6200或是BenQ的DT-090T,
兆赫ZP-600T這台的收訊能力也是網友詬病的問題之一,
但相對的大通和BenQ這兩台的收訊能力就很強了!

[QUOTE=wulala;1093339]至於樓主的情況, 有可能是STB的電容爆漿, 但也有可能是同軸纜線老化了.[/QUOTE]
請問如何研判同軸纜線老化? 同軸纜線壽命約多久? 需要整條換掉嗎?

[QUOTE=lenbo;1093340]乾脆放棄，改衝一台 兆赫ZP-600T 現在大概才 $3800 左右
能接區網看WIN網芳內的影片，又可以看 HiHD 及 DVB-T 還能錄~

連我都在考慮要不要衝一台給我媽看 台視數位台 說…
因為老媽喜歡看週六晚間台視胡瓜主持的歌唱節目，還有超偶；
不過，CATV 的訊號不曉得為什麼就是超爛的！
雜訊很大，會是因為 BB寬頻 的問題嗎？[/QUOTE]

其實因為大部分都是只有我父母在看~~
所以會想要找接收強度高的機上盒就行了~~

數位畫質真的有差
從看過以後~~
去別人家看CATV的畫質真的很不習慣~~
那怕是用4:3的電視接數位訊號都比CATV的好~~

[QUOTE=wulala;1093343]問看看能不能折價換成HDR-6200, 這台可收看HiHD又能錄影.
不過換購價格不能超過3000元, 否則建議到網拍找BenQ送的那台DT-090T,
BenQ的DT-090T和大通HDR-6200都是揚興代工的, 兩者功能大同小異,
但是DT-090T在網拍常有2500元甚至2000元的超低價.
七月份BenQ42吋液晶的促銷又是送這台, 所以八月又會有不少人放上網拍.[/QUOTE]

其實有考慮過HDR-6200這台~~
若會想繼續買大通的廠牌只是因為工廠離家比較近~~可以直接送~~

至於BENQ的DT-090T 拍賣的價格都還蠻高的~~都至少3K以上~~

因此也另外搜尋到SHARP TZ-HD3T (好像是SAMPO代工)
價格還比較便宜~~
也比較符合我可以接收數位或HI-HD的需求~~
至於錄影功能倒不是那麼迫切~~
不知道這台好麼?

[QUOTE=wulala;1093339]鵝大說的應該是2004年4月前後生產的大通DTV-1000@這款STB吧!
我有兩台, 都是它的電源模組的濾波電容爆漿(原廠的16V或25V耐壓不足).

至於樓主的情況, 有可能是STB的電容爆漿, 但也有可能是同軸纜線老化了.[/QUOTE]

若是這樣的話~~
感覺數位接收盒的品質好像都沒辦法撐太久~~
不知道跟使用環境有無關係?
因為我都是直接把接收盒放在電視上面~~沒有拔過電源用到現在~~
我知道主機本體的底部很熱~~但也不理它~~
若是散熱有影響的話~~
市面上出的直立式接收盒好像就大通HDR-6200那台.............@@"

[QUOTE=markcoke;1093333]如果照這樣說來~~
是否直接過去把舊的機子拿回來~~
然後另外購買有支援Hi-HD功能的機上盒會比較好呢?
剛看了維修單~~
檢測費要收200.............

看來也是要到現場才知道有什麼折衷的方法~~[/QUOTE]

如果可以免費換DTV-6700新機當然是不換白不換啊,至於HDTV就等買新電視再說吧----現在新的LCD內建支援H.264的STB越來越多了,內建的總比外接多一坨線可能還得再加一支遙控器好吧,就算直接內建的STB不支援H.264,也可能可以換成支援的,像鵝家的B牌LCD TV就有出支援H.264的新STB(網路價只要NT$3000有找),只可惜鵝家的機型蠻舊了(快滿三年了:|||:),不在其支援機型內,不然早就入手了:D....

[QUOTE=wulala;1093339]鵝大說的應該是2004年4月前後生產的大通DTV-1000@這款STB吧!
我有兩台, 都是它的電源模組的濾波電容爆漿(原廠的16V或25V耐壓不足).

至於樓主的情況, 有可能是STB的電容爆漿, 但也有可能是同軸纜線老化了.[/QUOTE]

應該不至於是耐壓的問題,STB內的負載除了tuner的變容二極體可能會用到35V外(有些是tuner內建升壓電路,對外只吃5V或12V,但也有tuner是吃外部35V的:p),通常很少用到5V以上,所以比較可能是電容的壽限到了:p....BTW,那台機器大概是2003年出廠的,因為鵝是2001年底搬來現住地的,印象中搬來沒多久鵝的鄰居因為不想再繳保護費給第四台,跑來問鵝DVB-T的事,鵝當時是用電腦看DVB-T收訊還可以,才敢對他說可以買了,所以不至於是2004年的事吧:p:p....

[QUOTE=markcoke;1093351]其實有考慮過HDR-6200這台~~
若會想繼續買大通的廠牌只是因為工廠離家比較近~~可以直接送~~

至於BENQ的DT-090T 拍賣的價格都還蠻高的~~都至少3K以上~~

因此也另外搜尋到SHARP TZ-HD3T (好像是SAMPO代工)
價格還比較便宜~~
也比較符合我可以接收數位或HI-HD的需求~~
至於錄影功能倒不是那麼迫切~~
不知道這台好麼?[/QUOTE]

大通和BenQ這兩台都是揚興代工的基本上收訊和操作是大同小異,
Sharp這台的確是聲寶的ST-D1機上盒是同型機,
但是由哪家公司代工就不清楚了....
[url]http://www.hd.club.tw/thread-21102-1-1.html[/url]
不過就網友使用的經驗, 聲寶的收訊能力稍差一些,
但據說其硬體電路有預留網路連線和錄影及影片播放的功能,
只是韌體被封印了, 友站有網友提供新版韌體可開啟部分功能.....
[url]http://www.hd.club.tw/thread-21848-14-1.html[/url]

大通HDR-6200的造型佳, 可直立, 比較討喜, 但價格硬.....
BenQ DT-090T因為被拿來當液晶電視的贈品, 網拍常有人低價殺出,
不過低價的拍賣品需要耐心等待....
(Y拍前幾天同時出現好幾台2K～2.5K的, P拍目前有3K以下且可議價....)
其實若完全不考慮錄影, 小黃屋之前也曾促銷過DT-083T這台HD機上盒,
但這台有人嫌它不穩, 易當機, 收訊不是很好(也有人完全沒問題).....
不過2000元以下(P拍有人賣1600元)的價格也還蠻超值的.

[QUOTE=markcoke;1093352]若是這樣的話~~
感覺數位接收盒的品質好像都沒辦法撐太久~~
不知道跟使用環境有無關係?
因為我都是直接把接收盒放在電視上面~~沒有拔過電源用到現在~~
我知道主機本體的底部很熱~~但也不理它~~
若是散熱有影響的話~~
市面上出的直立式接收盒好像就大通HDR-6200那台.............@@"[/QUOTE]

現在的數位機上盒不像過去的那麼耗電, 所以也比較不會那麼熱.
耐用度應該會比舊型機種好些.
我那兩台電容掛掉的DTV-1000@換了新電容後用到現在也六年多了,
目前是放在鄉下接舊CRT電視使用中.
至於BenQ這台新的則是關在電視櫃裡接37吋液晶並拿來錄HiHD的影集.

感謝各位精闢的建議~~
讓我心中有個現階段的結論~~
現在就等星期一去維修部的結果了~~

最後是以折舊的方式

以1450$的方式換購DTV-6700

而舊機DTV-6200也有帶回來

拆開一看發現有幾顆電容已經突起了

由於我不是本科系

不知道版上是否有人要拿回去實驗的??呵呵~~

而這台DTV-6700+UA-24天線

可以收到的訊號強度在87%左右

訊號品質都在95%以上~~

真的是差很多@@"

[QUOTE=markcoke;1093445]最後是以折舊的方式

以1450$的方式換購DTV-6700[/quote]

原來是換購DTV-6700或DTV-2100M大概折NT$200,鵝原先的理解是錯的:|||:....

[QUOTE=markcoke;1093445]而舊機DTV-6200也有帶回來

拆開一看發現有幾顆電容已經突起了

由於我不是本科系

不知道版上是否有人要拿回去實驗的??呵呵~~[/quote]

那您留下來等鵝下次回彰化好了(不過可能要過一陣子了,因為上週鵝才回去過:sleep:),或許鵝可以資源回收拿來裝在岳母家(其實自從鵝的岳父過世後岳母就跑來投靠鵝家的母牛了,所以並不是很急迫:p),不然每次陪老婆回娘家看收訊不良的類比廣播實在是有夠傷眼的(很久以前鵝就說要幫岳父母裝了,還被鵝家的母牛和其姐妹說鵝愛多管閒事:|||:)....BTW,借用一下PCDVD上[url=http://forum.pcdvd.com.tw/showpost.php?p=1082042345&postcount=120]nemea[/url]網友的照片,印象中是左下角及右下角那幾顆大電容比較容易爆(不過機型不一樣,只能參考而已:|||::|||:)....

[img]http://220.130.4.238/img_0300.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=wangcm;1093449]原來是換購DTV-6700或DTV-2100M大概折NT$200,鵝原先的理解是錯的:|||:....



那您留下來等鵝下次回彰化好了(不過可能要過一陣子了,因為上週鵝才回去過:sleep:),或許鵝可以資源回收拿來裝在岳母家(其實自從鵝的岳父過世後岳母就跑來投靠鵝家的母牛了,所以並不是很急迫:p),不然每次陪老婆回娘家看收訊不良的類比廣播實在是有夠傷眼的(很久以前鵝就說要幫岳父母裝了,還被鵝家的母牛和其姐妹說鵝愛多管閒事:|||:)....BTW,借用一下PCDVD上[url=http://forum.pcdvd.com.tw/showpost.php?p=1082042345&postcount=120]nemea[/url]網友的照片,印象中是左下角及右下角那幾顆大電容比較容易爆(不過機型不一樣,只能參考而已:|||::|||:)....

[img]http://220.130.4.238/img_0300.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]


OK!
那詳細內容再連絡吧~~
不過12V 1A的變壓器 外表有裂痕
可能要請您另尋它法囉~~

礙於手中相機剛好借人~~
所以也沒辦法拍照~~
不過電容突起也蠻多顆就是了~~

[QUOTE=markcoke;1093454]OK!
那詳細內容再連絡吧~~
不過12V 1A的變壓器 外表有裂痕
可能要請您另尋它法囉~~

snipped....[/QUOTE]

那就先謝謝了,鵝下次要回彰化之前再pm給您好了:p....BTW,AC adapter鵝手邊還有很多,應該不成問題就是了:p....