ahome
2003-07-02, 07:22 PM
經過2個星期的觀察,seednet的TP又再度啟動了,這次不分浮動ip還是固定ip,
通通都會走到TP,以下trace了幾個網站,都會經過proxy.seed.net.tw
(139.175.56.xxx都是seednet的TP)這個節點,可能是近日用戶增加,加上seednet
把浮動ip跟固定ip兩個方案合併在一起有關..
※何謂 TP (Transparent Proxy Server)
隱形代理伺服器亦代理伺服器是不可見的, 所有的Port:80 的連線要求和回應都直接從網代理伺服器. 由於所有存取已均透過代理伺服器進行, 用戶將無法選擇是否使用代理伺服器瀏覽網站.
或者可參考 什麼是Proxy server (http://siulung.com/internet/proxy.html) 內有詳細的說明
使用seednet 1.5M/384k做trace測試
↓Seednet的網頁並沒有走到TP的節點,可以證明Seednet自家網頁沒用到TP
Tracing route to www.seed.net.tw [192.72.80.36]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 58 ms 59 ms 56 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 58 ms 54 ms 54 ms sj235-66.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.66]
4 56 ms 78 ms 56 ms www.seed.net.tw [192.72.80.36]
Trace complete.
↓台灣教育部 很明顯有經過proxy.seed.net.tw
Tracing route to www.edu.tw [140.111.1.192]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 56 ms 55 ms 57 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 56 ms 59 ms 71 ms sj235-66.dialup.seed.net.tw [139.175.235.66]
4 54 ms 57 ms 56 ms proxy.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.210]
5 58 ms 57 ms 66 ms h75-192-72-123.seed.net.tw [192.72.123.75]
6 60 ms 56 ms 57 ms 140.111.230.251
7 61 ms 59 ms 60 ms www.edu.tw [140.111.1.192]
Trace complete.
↓雅虎kimo
Tracing route to tw.yahoo.com [202.1.237.21]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 57 ms 55 ms 71 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 69 ms 96 ms 56 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 57 ms 57 ms 57 ms R56-71.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.71]
5 58 ms 81 ms 57 ms tp-e4-c7r1.router.hinet.net[210.65.161.186]
6 60 ms 57 ms 57 ms tp-e4-c12r2.router.hinet.net[168.95.2.14]
7 61 ms 71 ms 82 ms 210.65.200.130
8 59 ms 78 ms 79 ms tp-s2-c6r8.router.hinet.net[211.22.35.181]
9 63 ms 70 ms 75 ms 211.22.41.93
10 59 ms 64 ms 82 ms tw.yahoo.com [202.1.237.21]
Trace complete.
↓日本雅虎
Tracing route to www.yahoo.co.jp [211.14.15.5]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 56 ms 57 ms 57 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 56 ms 53 ms 54 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 56 ms 57 ms 56 ms R56-211.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.211]
5 57 ms 56 ms 55 ms R59-170.seed.net.tw [139.175.59.170]
6 93 ms 89 ms 93 ms R56-22.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.22]
7 93 ms 97 ms 93 ms R59-25.seed.net.tw [139.175.59.25]
8 97 ms 93 ms 94 ms AS9607.ix.jpix.ad.jp [210.171.224.115]
9 93 ms 92 ms 117 ms GigabitEthernet1-0.edge02.colo01.bbtower.ad.jp [211.14.3.197]
10 94 ms 123 ms 94 ms edge07.colo01.bbtower.ad.jp[211.14.3.25]
11 94 ms 96 ms 97 ms yahoo-3.demarc.colo01.bbtower.ad.jp[211.14.4.145]
12 106 ms 92 ms 129 ms 211.14.12.241
13 98 ms 94 ms 97 ms 211.14.15.5
Trace complete.
↓台灣網路資訊中心
Tracing route to www.twnic.net.tw [210.17.9.228]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 56 ms 58 ms 57 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 62 ms 56 ms 55 ms sj235-66.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.66]
4 59 ms 78 ms 81 ms proxy.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.210]
5 56 ms 54 ms 57 ms h34-192-72-123.seed.net.tw[192.72.123.34]
6 56 ms 54 ms 66 ms 211.78.151.50
7 57 ms 58 ms 56 ms tpe7206-1.ttn.net [210.243.127.7]
8 75 ms 77 ms 65 ms www.twnic.net.tw [210.17.9.228]
Trace complete.
↓中國新浪
Tracing route to libra.sina.com.cn [202.106.185.237]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 60 ms 76 ms 59 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 55 ms 59 ms 72 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 57 ms 71 ms 72 ms R56-197.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.197]
5 93 ms 93 ms 109 ms R56-22.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.22]
6 116 ms 123 ms 95 ms 203.192.131.145
7 120 ms 91 ms 132 ms so0-2-0-622M.cr2.NRT4.gblx.net[203.192.132.125]
8 168 ms 151 ms 161 ms pos2-0-155m.cr1.HKG1.gblx.net[203.192.128.146]
9 160 ms 157 ms 150 ms pos0-0-622M.br1.HKG1.gblx.net[203.192.134.130]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 159 ms 176 ms 160 ms 210.0.252.49
12 166 ms 165 ms 169 ms s-4-1-1-r1-i-shsh-1-hgc-45M.cn.net[202.97.4.165]
13 162 ms 176 ms 164 ms 202.97.33.153
14 159 ms 157 ms 163 ms p-10-0-r3-c-gdgz-1.cn.net[202.97.37.70]
15 337 ms 344 ms 333 ms 202.97.15.194
16 305 ms 302 ms 303 ms 202.96.12.26
17 307 ms 303 ms 298 ms RTR-AHL-A-S2-0.bta.net.cn[202.106.192.170]
18 299 ms 311 ms 308 ms 210.74.176.154
19 301 ms 299 ms 299 ms 202.106.185.237
Trace complete.
↓香港雅虎
Tracing route to hk.yahoo.com [202.1.233.111]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 2 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 54 ms 55 ms 68 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 56 ms 57 ms 56 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 56 ms 54 ms 55 ms R56-211.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.211]
5 56 ms 53 ms 55 ms R59-170.seed.net.tw [139.175.59.170]
6 92 ms 95 ms 89 ms R56-22.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.22]
7 91 ms 92 ms 92 ms 203.192.131.145
8 95 ms 149 ms 97 ms so0-2-0-622M.cr2.NRT4.gblx.net[203.192.132.125]
9 167 ms 147 ms 144 ms pos2-0-155m.cr1.HKG1.gblx.net[203.192.128.146]
10 141 ms 156 ms 177 ms pos0-0-622M.br1.HKG1.gblx.net[203.192.134.130]
11 182 ms 151 ms 159 ms yahoo1-RGE.hkix.net [202.40.161.185]
12 160 ms 158 ms 160 ms hk.yahoo.com [202.1.233.111]
Trace complete.
↓台灣so-net
Tracing route to www.so-net.net.tw [61.64.127.7]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 55 ms 57 ms 76 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 57 ms 53 ms 70 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 57 ms 54 ms 57 ms proxy.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.210]
5 55 ms 54 ms 54 ms h34-192-72-123.seed.net.tw[192.72.123.34]
6 57 ms 54 ms 57 ms 211.78.151.242
7 59 ms 53 ms 54 ms 61.64.126.233
8 70 ms 67 ms 57 ms 61.64.127.249
9 58 ms 60 ms 57 ms www.so-net.net.tw [61.64.127.7]
10 58 ms 61 ms 56 ms www.so-net.net.tw [61.64.127.7]
Trace complete.
↓giga首頁
Tracing route to www.giga.net.tw [203.133.0.185]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 55 ms 57 ms 60 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 53 ms 55 ms 57 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 53 ms 56 ms 57 ms proxy.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.210]
5 54 ms 54 ms 56 ms h242-210-64-124.seed.net.tw[210.64.124.242]
6 59 ms 57 ms 57 ms TPNOC3-G65-CORE-G4-6-G65-PEER.IX.giga.net.tw [203.187.3.29]
7 54 ms 55 ms 58 ms PRIMARY.WSD.giga.net.tw [203.133.1.81]
8 55 ms 56 ms 63 ms 203.133.0.185
Trace complete.
↓redhet主站
Tracing route to www.redhet.com [218.244.47.7]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 57 ms 57 ms 59 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 56 ms 56 ms 57 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 60 ms 73 ms 56 ms R56-61.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.61]
5 57 ms 54 ms 57 ms R59-162.seed.net.tw [139.175.59.162]
6 194 ms 196 ms 194 ms R58-202.seed.net.tw [139.175.58.202]
7 213 ms 199 ms 196 ms R56-185.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.185]
8 196 ms 197 ms 197 ms 12.126.195.73
9 196 ms 199 ms * gbr1-p70.sffca.ip.att.net[12.123.13.58]
10 198 ms 199 ms 199 ms tbr2-p012401.sffca.ip.att.net[12.122.11.81]
11 207 ms 208 ms 205 ms tbr1-cl3.la2ca.ip.att.net[12.122.10.26]
12 206 ms 202 ms 205 ms gbr6-p100.la2ca.ip.att.net[12.122.11.142]
13 206 ms 204 ms 204 ms gar2-p370.la2ca.ip.att.net[12.123.28.173]
14 388 ms 391 ms 384 ms 12.127.139.42
15 393 ms 394 ms 387 ms 219.158.3.25
16 390 ms 383 ms 390 ms 202.96.12.46
17 397 ms 386 ms 389 ms 202.106.192.234
18 392 ms 390 ms 386 ms 202.96.13.46
19 412 ms 395 ms 392 ms 202.96.6.78
20 393 ms 405 ms 408 ms 218.244.47.7
Trace complete.
簡易測試方法:
98/me 開始->程式集->附屬應用程式->MS-DOS
2000/xp 開始->所有程式->附屬應用程式->命令提示字元
指令:tracert 網址
以上文章均可在台灣寬頻網路用戶抱怨控訴區籌備處 (http://shitcht.adsldns.org) 找到.
贊助商連結
通通都會走到TP,以下trace了幾個網站,都會經過proxy.seed.net.tw
(139.175.56.xxx都是seednet的TP)這個節點,可能是近日用戶增加,加上seednet
把浮動ip跟固定ip兩個方案合併在一起有關..
※何謂 TP (Transparent Proxy Server)
隱形代理伺服器亦代理伺服器是不可見的, 所有的Port:80 的連線要求和回應都直接從網代理伺服器. 由於所有存取已均透過代理伺服器進行, 用戶將無法選擇是否使用代理伺服器瀏覽網站.
或者可參考 什麼是Proxy server (http://siulung.com/internet/proxy.html) 內有詳細的說明
使用seednet 1.5M/384k做trace測試
↓Seednet的網頁並沒有走到TP的節點,可以證明Seednet自家網頁沒用到TP
Tracing route to www.seed.net.tw [192.72.80.36]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 58 ms 59 ms 56 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 58 ms 54 ms 54 ms sj235-66.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.66]
4 56 ms 78 ms 56 ms www.seed.net.tw [192.72.80.36]
Trace complete.
↓台灣教育部 很明顯有經過proxy.seed.net.tw
Tracing route to www.edu.tw [140.111.1.192]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 56 ms 55 ms 57 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 56 ms 59 ms 71 ms sj235-66.dialup.seed.net.tw [139.175.235.66]
4 54 ms 57 ms 56 ms proxy.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.210]
5 58 ms 57 ms 66 ms h75-192-72-123.seed.net.tw [192.72.123.75]
6 60 ms 56 ms 57 ms 140.111.230.251
7 61 ms 59 ms 60 ms www.edu.tw [140.111.1.192]
Trace complete.
↓雅虎kimo
Tracing route to tw.yahoo.com [202.1.237.21]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 57 ms 55 ms 71 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 69 ms 96 ms 56 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 57 ms 57 ms 57 ms R56-71.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.71]
5 58 ms 81 ms 57 ms tp-e4-c7r1.router.hinet.net[210.65.161.186]
6 60 ms 57 ms 57 ms tp-e4-c12r2.router.hinet.net[168.95.2.14]
7 61 ms 71 ms 82 ms 210.65.200.130
8 59 ms 78 ms 79 ms tp-s2-c6r8.router.hinet.net[211.22.35.181]
9 63 ms 70 ms 75 ms 211.22.41.93
10 59 ms 64 ms 82 ms tw.yahoo.com [202.1.237.21]
Trace complete.
↓日本雅虎
Tracing route to www.yahoo.co.jp [211.14.15.5]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 56 ms 57 ms 57 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 56 ms 53 ms 54 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 56 ms 57 ms 56 ms R56-211.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.211]
5 57 ms 56 ms 55 ms R59-170.seed.net.tw [139.175.59.170]
6 93 ms 89 ms 93 ms R56-22.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.22]
7 93 ms 97 ms 93 ms R59-25.seed.net.tw [139.175.59.25]
8 97 ms 93 ms 94 ms AS9607.ix.jpix.ad.jp [210.171.224.115]
9 93 ms 92 ms 117 ms GigabitEthernet1-0.edge02.colo01.bbtower.ad.jp [211.14.3.197]
10 94 ms 123 ms 94 ms edge07.colo01.bbtower.ad.jp[211.14.3.25]
11 94 ms 96 ms 97 ms yahoo-3.demarc.colo01.bbtower.ad.jp[211.14.4.145]
12 106 ms 92 ms 129 ms 211.14.12.241
13 98 ms 94 ms 97 ms 211.14.15.5
Trace complete.
↓台灣網路資訊中心
Tracing route to www.twnic.net.tw [210.17.9.228]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 56 ms 58 ms 57 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 62 ms 56 ms 55 ms sj235-66.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.66]
4 59 ms 78 ms 81 ms proxy.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.210]
5 56 ms 54 ms 57 ms h34-192-72-123.seed.net.tw[192.72.123.34]
6 56 ms 54 ms 66 ms 211.78.151.50
7 57 ms 58 ms 56 ms tpe7206-1.ttn.net [210.243.127.7]
8 75 ms 77 ms 65 ms www.twnic.net.tw [210.17.9.228]
Trace complete.
↓中國新浪
Tracing route to libra.sina.com.cn [202.106.185.237]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 60 ms 76 ms 59 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 55 ms 59 ms 72 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 57 ms 71 ms 72 ms R56-197.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.197]
5 93 ms 93 ms 109 ms R56-22.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.22]
6 116 ms 123 ms 95 ms 203.192.131.145
7 120 ms 91 ms 132 ms so0-2-0-622M.cr2.NRT4.gblx.net[203.192.132.125]
8 168 ms 151 ms 161 ms pos2-0-155m.cr1.HKG1.gblx.net[203.192.128.146]
9 160 ms 157 ms 150 ms pos0-0-622M.br1.HKG1.gblx.net[203.192.134.130]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 159 ms 176 ms 160 ms 210.0.252.49
12 166 ms 165 ms 169 ms s-4-1-1-r1-i-shsh-1-hgc-45M.cn.net[202.97.4.165]
13 162 ms 176 ms 164 ms 202.97.33.153
14 159 ms 157 ms 163 ms p-10-0-r3-c-gdgz-1.cn.net[202.97.37.70]
15 337 ms 344 ms 333 ms 202.97.15.194
16 305 ms 302 ms 303 ms 202.96.12.26
17 307 ms 303 ms 298 ms RTR-AHL-A-S2-0.bta.net.cn[202.106.192.170]
18 299 ms 311 ms 308 ms 210.74.176.154
19 301 ms 299 ms 299 ms 202.106.185.237
Trace complete.
↓香港雅虎
Tracing route to hk.yahoo.com [202.1.233.111]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 2 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 54 ms 55 ms 68 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 56 ms 57 ms 56 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 56 ms 54 ms 55 ms R56-211.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.211]
5 56 ms 53 ms 55 ms R59-170.seed.net.tw [139.175.59.170]
6 92 ms 95 ms 89 ms R56-22.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.22]
7 91 ms 92 ms 92 ms 203.192.131.145
8 95 ms 149 ms 97 ms so0-2-0-622M.cr2.NRT4.gblx.net[203.192.132.125]
9 167 ms 147 ms 144 ms pos2-0-155m.cr1.HKG1.gblx.net[203.192.128.146]
10 141 ms 156 ms 177 ms pos0-0-622M.br1.HKG1.gblx.net[203.192.134.130]
11 182 ms 151 ms 159 ms yahoo1-RGE.hkix.net [202.40.161.185]
12 160 ms 158 ms 160 ms hk.yahoo.com [202.1.233.111]
Trace complete.
↓台灣so-net
Tracing route to www.so-net.net.tw [61.64.127.7]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 55 ms 57 ms 76 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 57 ms 53 ms 70 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 57 ms 54 ms 57 ms proxy.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.210]
5 55 ms 54 ms 54 ms h34-192-72-123.seed.net.tw[192.72.123.34]
6 57 ms 54 ms 57 ms 211.78.151.242
7 59 ms 53 ms 54 ms 61.64.126.233
8 70 ms 67 ms 57 ms 61.64.127.249
9 58 ms 60 ms 57 ms www.so-net.net.tw [61.64.127.7]
10 58 ms 61 ms 56 ms www.so-net.net.tw [61.64.127.7]
Trace complete.
↓giga首頁
Tracing route to www.giga.net.tw [203.133.0.185]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 55 ms 57 ms 60 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 53 ms 55 ms 57 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 53 ms 56 ms 57 ms proxy.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.210]
5 54 ms 54 ms 56 ms h242-210-64-124.seed.net.tw[210.64.124.242]
6 59 ms 57 ms 57 ms TPNOC3-G65-CORE-G4-6-G65-PEER.IX.giga.net.tw [203.187.3.29]
7 54 ms 55 ms 58 ms PRIMARY.WSD.giga.net.tw [203.133.1.81]
8 55 ms 56 ms 63 ms 203.133.0.185
Trace complete.
↓redhet主站
Tracing route to www.redhet.com [218.244.47.7]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.123.254
2 57 ms 57 ms 59 ms h1-210-68-46.seed.net.tw [210.68.46.1]
3 56 ms 56 ms 57 ms sj235-67.dialup.seed.net.tw[139.175.235.67]
4 60 ms 73 ms 56 ms R56-61.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.61]
5 57 ms 54 ms 57 ms R59-162.seed.net.tw [139.175.59.162]
6 194 ms 196 ms 194 ms R58-202.seed.net.tw [139.175.58.202]
7 213 ms 199 ms 196 ms R56-185.seed.net.tw [139.175.56.185]
8 196 ms 197 ms 197 ms 12.126.195.73
9 196 ms 199 ms * gbr1-p70.sffca.ip.att.net[12.123.13.58]
10 198 ms 199 ms 199 ms tbr2-p012401.sffca.ip.att.net[12.122.11.81]
11 207 ms 208 ms 205 ms tbr1-cl3.la2ca.ip.att.net[12.122.10.26]
12 206 ms 202 ms 205 ms gbr6-p100.la2ca.ip.att.net[12.122.11.142]
13 206 ms 204 ms 204 ms gar2-p370.la2ca.ip.att.net[12.123.28.173]
14 388 ms 391 ms 384 ms 12.127.139.42
15 393 ms 394 ms 387 ms 219.158.3.25
16 390 ms 383 ms 390 ms 202.96.12.46
17 397 ms 386 ms 389 ms 202.106.192.234
18 392 ms 390 ms 386 ms 202.96.13.46
19 412 ms 395 ms 392 ms 202.96.6.78
20 393 ms 405 ms 408 ms 218.244.47.7
Trace complete.
簡易測試方法:
98/me 開始->程式集->附屬應用程式->MS-DOS
2000/xp 開始->所有程式->附屬應用程式->命令提示字元
指令:tracert 網址
以上文章均可在台灣寬頻網路用戶抱怨控訴區籌備處 (http://shitcht.adsldns.org) 找到.
贊助商連結