oldlabel
2002-04-28, 04:59 PM
我對於新的版規有一些看法,我覺得對於那些所謂的〝證據〞,不管是圖片或是文字,都是沒什麼意義的,只會造成這個站流量的負擔而已!怎麼說呢?其實,對於那些有心人,要造假是很容易的一件事,尤其是文字,他們只要複製別人貼過的文字,稍微修改一下數字,再貼到板上,誰也不知道到底他所貼的〝證據〞是對還是錯!而圖片要造假也是很容易,只要利用複製貼上,把想要的數字框起來複製之後,再貼上去,在另存新的檔案,就成為新的圖了!我想更沒人會知道!我想你應該知道我的意思吧!
至於要怎麼防範,我想,對於這種東西,誰都無法防範!
不知道大家的看法如何?我有把這篇文章給站長看過,他回答的很中肯,所以來這看看大家的看法!
還有,請問PING之後要怎麼看他們的數值呢?那些數值代表什麼意思呢?
下面兩的ping值,有一個是真的,有一個是假的,有誰可以告訴我,哪一個是真的,哪一個是假的呢?
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PM 5:07 HINET 1.5M
Microsoft Windows XP [版本 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\>ping www.usatoday.com
Pinging www.usatoday.com [66.54.32.236] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=280ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=238
Ping statistics for 66.54.32.236:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 270ms, Maximum = 280ms, Average = 272ms
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PM 5:07 HINET 1.5M
Microsoft Windows XP [版本 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\>ping www.usatoday.com
Pinging www.usatoday.com [66.54.32.236] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=277ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=269ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=238
Ping statistics for 66.54.32.236:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 269ms, Maximum = 277ms, Average = 271ms
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下面兩個tracert值,有一個是真的,有一個是假的,哪一個是真的呢?哪一個是假的呢?
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PM 6:00 HINET 1.5M
Microsoft Windows XP [版本 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\>tracert www.usatoday.com
Tracing route to www.usatoday.com [66.54.32.238]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 57 ms 49 ms 49 ms 218-164-24-254.HINET-IP.hinet.net [218.164.24.254]
2 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms h106.s32.ts.hinet.net [168.95.32.106]
3 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms kh-b-c12r2.router.hinet.net [211.22.225.18]
4 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms kh-b-c12r31.router.hinet.net [168.95.19.2]
5 189 ms 189 ms 199 ms pa-c12r1.USA-PaloAlto.router.hinet.net [202.39.91.5]
6 199 ms 198 ms 199 ms 202.39.83.21
7 209 ms 199 ms 199 ms sl-gw8-sj-0-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.192.133]
8 199 ms 199 ms 199 ms sl-bb20-sj-8-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.3.109]
9 199 ms 199 ms 209 ms pos6-0.core2.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.146.141]
10 199 ms 199 ms 199 ms ae0-52.mp2.SanJose1.Level3.net [64.159.2.33]
11 275 ms 269 ms 269 ms so-2-0-0-0.mp2.NewYork1.Level3.net [209.247.9.89]
12 269 ms 269 ms 279 ms gige7-1.ipcolo1.NewYork1.Level3.net [64.159.17.99]
13 269 ms 279 ms 274 ms pos11-0.hsipaccess1.Newark1.Level3.net [209.244.12.182]
14 279 ms 269 ms 278 ms unknown.Level3.net [64.156.0.26]
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 269 ms 279 ms 269 ms 66.54.32.238
Trace complete.
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PM 6:00 HINET 1.5M
Microsoft Windows XP [版本 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\>tracert www.usatoday.com
Tracing route to www.usatoday.com [66.54.32.238]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 57 ms 49 ms 49 ms 218-164-24-254.HINET-IP.hinet.net [218.164.24.254]
2 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms h106.s32.ts.hinet.net [168.95.32.106]
3 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms kh-b-c12r2.router.hinet.net [211.22.225.18]
4 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms kh-b-c12r31.router.hinet.net [168.95.19.2]
5 179 ms 179 ms 189 ms pa-c12r1.USA-PaloAlto.router.hinet.net [202.39.91.5]
6 189 ms 188 ms 189 ms 202.39.83.21
7 209 ms 199 ms 199 ms sl-gw8-sj-0-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.192.133]
8 179 ms 179 ms 179 ms sl-bb20-sj-8-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.3.109]
9 189 ms 189 ms 199 ms pos6-0.core2.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.146.141]
10 279 ms 279 ms 279 ms ae0-52.mp2.SanJose1.Level3.net [64.159.2.33]
11 275 ms 269 ms 269 ms so-2-0-0-0.mp2.NewYork1.Level3.net [209.247.9.89]
12 269 ms 269 ms 279 ms gige7-1.ipcolo1.NewYork1.Level3.net [64.159.17.99]
13 269 ms 279 ms 274 ms pos11-0.hsipaccess1.Newark1.Level3.net [209.244.12.182]
14 279 ms 269 ms 278 ms unknown.Level3.net [64.156.0.26]
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 269 ms 279 ms 269 ms 66.54.32.238
Trace complete.
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下面還有兩張圖,有一張是真的,有一張是假的,請問哪一張是真的呢?哪一張是假的呢?
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http://web-counter.net/speed1.gif
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http://web-counter.net/speed2.gif
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圖要按下去,才能看到全圖喔!
贊助商連結
至於要怎麼防範,我想,對於這種東西,誰都無法防範!
不知道大家的看法如何?我有把這篇文章給站長看過,他回答的很中肯,所以來這看看大家的看法!
還有,請問PING之後要怎麼看他們的數值呢?那些數值代表什麼意思呢?
下面兩的ping值,有一個是真的,有一個是假的,有誰可以告訴我,哪一個是真的,哪一個是假的呢?
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【A】
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PM 5:07 HINET 1.5M
Microsoft Windows XP [版本 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\>ping www.usatoday.com
Pinging www.usatoday.com [66.54.32.236] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=280ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=238
Ping statistics for 66.54.32.236:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 270ms, Maximum = 280ms, Average = 272ms
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PM 5:07 HINET 1.5M
Microsoft Windows XP [版本 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\>ping www.usatoday.com
Pinging www.usatoday.com [66.54.32.236] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=277ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=269ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=238
Reply from 66.54.32.236: bytes=32 time=270ms TTL=238
Ping statistics for 66.54.32.236:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 269ms, Maximum = 277ms, Average = 271ms
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下面兩個tracert值,有一個是真的,有一個是假的,哪一個是真的呢?哪一個是假的呢?
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PM 6:00 HINET 1.5M
Microsoft Windows XP [版本 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\>tracert www.usatoday.com
Tracing route to www.usatoday.com [66.54.32.238]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 57 ms 49 ms 49 ms 218-164-24-254.HINET-IP.hinet.net [218.164.24.254]
2 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms h106.s32.ts.hinet.net [168.95.32.106]
3 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms kh-b-c12r2.router.hinet.net [211.22.225.18]
4 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms kh-b-c12r31.router.hinet.net [168.95.19.2]
5 189 ms 189 ms 199 ms pa-c12r1.USA-PaloAlto.router.hinet.net [202.39.91.5]
6 199 ms 198 ms 199 ms 202.39.83.21
7 209 ms 199 ms 199 ms sl-gw8-sj-0-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.192.133]
8 199 ms 199 ms 199 ms sl-bb20-sj-8-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.3.109]
9 199 ms 199 ms 209 ms pos6-0.core2.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.146.141]
10 199 ms 199 ms 199 ms ae0-52.mp2.SanJose1.Level3.net [64.159.2.33]
11 275 ms 269 ms 269 ms so-2-0-0-0.mp2.NewYork1.Level3.net [209.247.9.89]
12 269 ms 269 ms 279 ms gige7-1.ipcolo1.NewYork1.Level3.net [64.159.17.99]
13 269 ms 279 ms 274 ms pos11-0.hsipaccess1.Newark1.Level3.net [209.244.12.182]
14 279 ms 269 ms 278 ms unknown.Level3.net [64.156.0.26]
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 269 ms 279 ms 269 ms 66.54.32.238
Trace complete.
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PM 6:00 HINET 1.5M
Microsoft Windows XP [版本 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\>tracert www.usatoday.com
Tracing route to www.usatoday.com [66.54.32.238]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 57 ms 49 ms 49 ms 218-164-24-254.HINET-IP.hinet.net [218.164.24.254]
2 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms h106.s32.ts.hinet.net [168.95.32.106]
3 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms kh-b-c12r2.router.hinet.net [211.22.225.18]
4 49 ms 49 ms 49 ms kh-b-c12r31.router.hinet.net [168.95.19.2]
5 179 ms 179 ms 189 ms pa-c12r1.USA-PaloAlto.router.hinet.net [202.39.91.5]
6 189 ms 188 ms 189 ms 202.39.83.21
7 209 ms 199 ms 199 ms sl-gw8-sj-0-2.sprintlink.net [144.232.192.133]
8 179 ms 179 ms 179 ms sl-bb20-sj-8-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.3.109]
9 189 ms 189 ms 199 ms pos6-0.core2.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.245.146.141]
10 279 ms 279 ms 279 ms ae0-52.mp2.SanJose1.Level3.net [64.159.2.33]
11 275 ms 269 ms 269 ms so-2-0-0-0.mp2.NewYork1.Level3.net [209.247.9.89]
12 269 ms 269 ms 279 ms gige7-1.ipcolo1.NewYork1.Level3.net [64.159.17.99]
13 269 ms 279 ms 274 ms pos11-0.hsipaccess1.Newark1.Level3.net [209.244.12.182]
14 279 ms 269 ms 278 ms unknown.Level3.net [64.156.0.26]
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 269 ms 279 ms 269 ms 66.54.32.238
Trace complete.
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下面還有兩張圖,有一張是真的,有一張是假的,請問哪一張是真的呢?哪一張是假的呢?
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http://web-counter.net/speed1.gif
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【F】
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http://web-counter.net/speed2.gif
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圖要按下去,才能看到全圖喔!
贊助商連結